Posted on 08/10/2015 2:03:13 PM PDT by NYer
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Agreed. Vessel purification is a liturgical nonevent. It's best left until after Mass at the credence table.
The vessels still contain the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ. The purification is properly done by the priest and/or the deacon.....not lay people.
Sure but there’s no reason to do it until after Mass.
Our priest does it before the closing prayer.
http://www.adoremus.org/1106ExtraordinaryMinisters.html
Adoremus, Society for the Renewal of the Sacred Liturgy
Online Edition - November 2006
Vol. XII, No. 8
US Must Observe General Law on Purifying Sacred Vessels After Mass
by Helen Hull Hitchcock
Permission for the US bishops to extend the practice of allowing extraordinary ministers of Holy Communion to purify sacred vessels after Mass has been officially denied by the Holy See, so that the practice of the Church in the United States will conform to the general law of the Latin Church.
In an October 12 letter to Bishop William Skylstad, president of the US bishops’ conference, Cardinal Francis Arinze, Prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments, reported that Pope Benedict declined the US bishops’ request to extend the indult that permitted this practice. Cardinal Arinze’s letter was sent to all bishops on October 23, along with “Seven Questions on the Distribution of Holy Communion Under Both Kinds”, prepared by the Bishops’ Committee on the Liturgy (BCL).
That’s fine but it leads to a lot of unnecessary distractions at a time when devotion to the Blessed Sacrament might be better off without them.
I just keep my head bowed and my eyes closed and continue praying. No problem, but then I say quite a few prayers after Communion.
We could all just be telling Christ, “Thank you for coming into my heart.” Repeat and Repeat.
Until the extra-ugly eucharist ministers came along, vessels were purified at the altar before removed.
But I do understand that some people are in rush to get their donuts or catch the early football game.
Have you noticed that it sometimes takes longer to give the EUEM's Holy Communion than to the entire congregation?
At any Mass, the ONLY “Eucharistic Minister” is a priest—and any concelebrating priest.
At Communion time, a priest and a deacon are ordinary ministers of Communion. And there can be Extraordinary Ministers of Communion.
There will never be female priests.
Just abandon the idea right now and save yourself a lot of time and energy. It cannot happen. It is impossible. A female cannot be a priest, any more than Bruce Jenner can be a woman.
If America, or the entire West, has lost the Faith, then the Church will die in the West. Jesus never said his Church would last forever in any particular place.
You will not save the Church in America or Western Europe or South America by campaigning for something that is a metaphysical impossibility, a “female priest.”
Most congregations sit and stare at the priest as he purifies the vessels. The instant the lock on the tabernacle clicks, they move from their knees to their seats. How much better it would be if they would ignore the priest and do some praying.
You’re a lucky one. At the few recent NO Masses I have attended, the priest sits on his rump while his EUEM’s chat while they “dry clean” the sacred vessels.
Our NO priests do not read the Gospel, they do not give the sermon, nor do they purify the sacred vessels. They have been emasculateled.
Yes. I recently volunteered as a Eucharistic Minister to take Communion to a local hospital. We follow the hospital protocols. We would put on protective garments if someone was infectious. This would be voluntary and our choice. This would be to protect ourselves as well as the patients.
I understand the feeling of wanting to only receive from a priest or a deacon, but I do not agree that only a priest or deacon should give Communion.
We are all members of the Body of Christ and we should all participate in bringing Jesus to Catholics and spreading the Truth of God to all.
In our diocese at the next change of priests, we will share a priest with our neighbor church. Some are clusters of 3-4 parishes. Our priest is very busy with over 6000 members and still growing parish, and the committees are very active. We would be a different parish if we did not have significant participation by many including the Extraordinary Eucharistic ministers.
Perhaps we need to continue to change the ways things are done without affecting the Truth that Jesus taught us, so that we can continue to bring others to Jesus.
I am more concerned about the percentage of Catholics that do not believe in the Real Presence of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist. From a 2011 survey 37%.
“To explore the implications of this gap, we asked both a knowledge question and a belief question in our 2011 survey. We found that half of adult Catholics (50 percent) know the church’s teaching regarding the real presence and half do not. We also found that close to two-thirds of adult Catholics (63 percent) believe that “at the consecration during a Catholic Mass, the bread and wine really become the body and blood of Jesus Christ.”
Therefore, more adult Catholics believe the statement than understand its source. But how are these two items related?”
http://ncronline.org/news/catholics-america/knowledge-and-belief-about-real-presence
An interesting aside. While getting a tour of the hospital, we sat in the Chaplin’s office and the assistant Chaplin stated that he had “consecrated hosts” if we ever ran out. While we were puzzled that consecrated hosts would be kept at a hospital, the Head Chaplin later told us that they were “Episcopal hosts”. So we learned early to take hosts from a Catholic Church.
I do feel privileged to take Communion to the sick.
**Our NO priests do not read the Gospel**
If they have a Deacon, the Deacon will read the Gospel.
I didn’t think we were supposed to sit down until the priest sat down. Isn’t that correct?
**vessels were purified at the altar before removed.**
This is what my Novus Ordo priest does all the time.
** they do not give the sermon**
A Deacon can also give the sermon.
Married deacons, I assume. Another novelty of VC II.
Does he sit on his rump after Communion as the rest of the congregation does the same?
Does he kneel during the prayers at the foot of the altar?
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