Posted on 10/24/2015 2:00:54 PM PDT by NYer
I just noticed that the drawing you posted states that it is a “Chatderal” and not a “cathedral.” I wonder what the difference is? Perhaps something going back to medieval religious spats? Oh well, such a worry is probably ‘medieval’ in nature and useless now.
Wonderful story. There’s hope for us all.
Quite by coincidence, just before I came to this thread, I was just watching some previously unseen comments by that famous atheist, Christopher Hitchens, on Mother Theresa of Calcutta.
Do you have an opinion on him? What did he not see?
Churches don't save people. People don't save people. God saves people, by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.
I visited it in 1995. It is impressive especially the fine stonework inside. That said the church that most moved me in my journeys throughout Europe was Westminster Abbey. St Peters also packs a wallop.
Not that anyone asked but I vote for a good thorough cleaning.
Some more detail. That feeling of reverence was so strong I did not feel right entering the Cathedral in my current state of mind. I actually felt a bit dirty. This was a totally new feeling for me, and confusing. But I really wanted to go inside so I decided to willfully suspend my disbelief for the time period I was inside. That was sufficient for me to feel clean enough to go inside.
When I got back out I went back to my old state of mind, sarcastic, dismissive, and unbelieving in Christianity but not completely. There was a subtle change, I was not exactly the same person. For the next two years I repeatedly had to fight off Christ, so to speak. He was like a salesman who I let get his foot in the door and would not go away. Finally I just gave up and bought what he was selling. That was my conversion experience, and it was, to borrow from Seinfeld, spectacular!
As far as Christopher Hitchens, I don’t really have an opinion. I do know he was rebellious right to the end. He was a very smart man and I don’t think he was really an Atheist. He seemed mad at God. You cannot be mad at someone you do not believe exists. Dawkins seems the same way.
I was on a tour of Loire valley chateaus in 1995 when we visited Chartres cathedral. It was in January in the middle of a cold rainstorm so the interior seemed beautiful but gloomy.
Our tour took TWA 800 from JFK to Paris on that trip and at that time flight 800 went on from Paris to Tel Aviv so there were many Israelis on board. When TWA 800 went down in the summer of 1996, I was sure it was terrorism. Maybe I’m a conspiracy theorist, but the investigations have not changed my mind.
PLEASE watch the movie “The WAY!!! It’s absolutely fabulous!!! TEARJERKER!!
My CATHOLIC NUN Always said that to us!!!!
Visiting is like walking into a jewel box. Stunning.
When I visited it was May and cool but sunny. Oddly it was closed when we arrived due to some gathering of Sri Lankans who were also on the train we took from Paris. It would open later in the day which is when we got to view the inside. It also was a bit dark but maybe not as dark as you saw it. This restoration once it’s complete might be worth a second viewing. When I saw the Sistine the restoration of the ceiling was done but they were still working on the panels near the floor.
FWIW, I think restoration is a wonderful idea. I remember first visiting Europe and especially London and seeing those sooty old buildings. That condition isn't authentic, just the accumulation of centuries of London "fog." It's wonderful today to see the Palace of Westminster in its original limestone color.
I was in Chartres Cathedral as a child and I will never forget it.
Thanks colorado tanker.
I visited the Sistine Chapel post restoration. The colors seemed so bright, gaudy, compared to what I was expecting.
Also, it was small compared to what I thought it would be.
The stairs you go down when you leave are pretty small, too.
I visited Chartres, and the stained glass windows were breathtaking. I bought a bunch of books with photos of the Cathedral...I have no idea where those books are, but I’m inspired to find them now.
“He who has been washed in Christ has no need to bathe again.” (Attributed to St. Jerome.)
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