Posted on 11/25/2017 11:37:48 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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OK, you happen to believe that the parables do not represent real anecdotes.
I definitely believe they do.
All of the poetic language is filled with truth, expressed in a memorable way.
The literal meanings become more apparent when more of the Bible is accepted as true by the reader.
The word as originally presented is solid and understandable, but much of it has been mangled by translators and editors (such as the ridiculous italicised corruptions in the KJV)
Usually the lack of clarity is subconsiously imagined to attempt to fit the word with pre-conceived notions.
The more we study, the less prevalent that trait becomes.
More scripture interprets more scripture.
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As God judged the Canaanites, slaying them on His command would be an execution under His authority...
Cortez’s reaction to the Aztecs was much the same as Moses and Joshua’s reaction to the Caananites and for much the same reasons.
Did God cause the Holocaust?
Art Katz was a NY atheist/communist Jewish intellectual in the upper crust and had a profound conversion to Christ (”Ben Israell” the book) and later proposed with great proof that the Holocaust was brought on the Jews themselves for their repeated rejection of their God Ignoring God’s warnings to them over thousands of years.
His book was initially violently rejected by most Christian leaders (who formerly had great respect for him), but over time more and more saw Art’s arguments to be too strong to refute.
A powerful book: The Holocaust: Where was God?
Also read his autobiography, Ben Israel
Because Israel wasn't inclined to do so on its own. It was not in the inherent character.
Kind of like the white space on a printed page. It tells us what's *not* there.
Would other nations have needed to be told? For Ishmael's descendants, a day without beheadings is like a day without sunshine.
Israel miscalculated Moses' return by one day and went off the rails... by rising up 'to play'.
The power of Germany and Japan was utterly destroyed during World War II.
Furthermore, judging G-d by the standards of an allegedly independent morality is a slippery slope that led to exactly where we are today.
Finally--someone gets it!
Man sitting in judgment on G-d is ridiculous. It's what atheists and liberals do.
Amen.
What most people miss in this biblical account is something which is consistently hidden or hushed over since the times of Noah... but the bible is pretty clear about it.
The reason God told Israel to utterly destroy (genocide) multiple tribes is the same reason He wiped out the earth with the flood.
It was not a judgment against men.
It was an eradication of the Nephillum blood line.
Nephillum are human/angelic hybrids.
Why did God tell them to wipe out all those tribes???
Simple... they were not human.
Furthermore... It was foretold by Jesus that the same incursion would occur again in the last days.
But there was no divine order to kill every last German person, as was the ordered case for Canaanitexample cities (with variations, of course).
God promised Moses that He would give a number of nations into Israel’s hand at a future time when their sin would be ripe.
Genesis 15:16 MKJV
(16) But in the fourth generation they shall come here again, for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.
This implies God’s judgement and the resulting decree as to their fate. In this case, they were to be disenfranchised of their lands and Israel would take their place.
Lest anyone think that God is partial in judgement, when Israel’s sins reached a certain level, He caused great invading armies to kill many and to take the few who survived captives into exile.
This is not as arcane as it may seem. God may yet one day judge us similarly. At the time of the US War of Northern Aggression, many people concluded that the deaths and destruction were God’s punishment for the national sin of slavery.
(People who don’t believe in God, don’t accept that theory and seek to impose their own punishment for that sin. Or better yet, to just continue to complain about the sin and to leave the painful wound open and festering because it works to their ideological advantage.)
If The Revelation of St. John is talking about today, then expect similar destruction and plagues as what happened to the Egyptians to happen to the world over.
> Man sitting in judgment on G-d is ridiculous.
Indeed. HaShem decides good and evil. If He commanded murder, we would murder.
It’s not murder fulfilling the laws of God, such as war or the death penalty for appropriate crimes. This situation with the Canaanites was a situation involving a war with nations that would seek to destroy you. These nations were also destructive to themselves with their practices ranging from human sacrifice to sibling incest.
> It’s not murder fulfilling the laws of God, such as war or the death penalty for appropriate crimes. This situation with the Canaanites was a situation involving a war with nations that would seek to destroy you. These nations were also destructive to themselves with their practices ranging from human sacrifice to sibling incest.
I agree with you. I will add that it is not incumbent upon Gentiles to wage war with idolatrous nations just for the purpose of eliminating their worship of idols.
What Book of Joshua have they been reading? It is clear in the Book of Joshua, even out of the words of Joshua's mouth, that a remnant of Canaanites and others were still there.
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Joshua 23:11-13 Take good heed therefore unto yourselves, that ye love the LORD your God. 12Else if ye do in any wise go back, and cleave unto the remnant of these nations, even these that remain among you, and shall make marriages with them, and go in unto them, and they to you: 13Know for a certainty that the LORD your God will no more drive out any of these nations from before you; but they shall be snares and traps unto you, and scourges in your sides, thorns in your eyes, until ye perish from off this good land which the LORD your God hath given you.
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Also, other some other verses in Joshua that let the reader out by any means.
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Joshua 15:63 for the Jebusites the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the children of Judah could not drive them out: but the Jebusites dwell with the children of Judah at Jerusalem unto this day.
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Joshua 16:10 And they drave not out the Canaanites that dwelt in Gezer: but the Canaanites dwell among the Ephraimites unto this day, and serve under tribute.
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Joshua 17:12 Yet the children of Manasseh could not drive out the inhabitants of those cities; but the Canaanites would dwell in that land.
I believe - and I admit to no revelation from God on this matter - that He ordered the killing of the ancient Canaanites because they practiced the one form of sacrifice that is an abhorrent to Him: human sacrifice, specifically the sacrifice of their children to Baal.
I believe God ordered their destruction because they practiced human sacrifice, specifically of their children to Baal.
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