Posted on 06/12/2018 11:40:41 AM PDT by Gamecock
Father. Son (Word). Spirit. Perhaps these United Methodists should read their Bibles.
Well Laodicea is alive & well in these final days of the Age of Grace.
Most “churches” signed their souls away to Satan long ago.
They’re all “Respect my pronouns!”
But no respect for His pronouns. Figures.
I wondered that too. Why reference to Jesus as God’s son? Why not reference Jesus as his child, without reference to him as a male? If they are going down this road, why not go all the way? Otherwise they are violating their own standards of decorum.
The Latin had the word “father.” The Lord’s Prayer uses the word “father.” The Hebrew in the Old Testament refers to God with the masculine pronoun.
Any more questions?
--Leonard Bernstein (from Mass, 1971)
[The church where I am a member (UMC) offered 3 books for summer reading; a book on White Privilege, a book supporting gun control and a book supporting Global Warming.]
Sounds like it’s way past time to change the leadership or get outta there.
Next step: Our Parent, which art in Heaven...
We left 2 years ago but the current church is hard to get plugged into. It’s a non-denom formed by college professors in the 1960’s. Extremely conservative and Bible-focused.
The books at the UMC are being pushed by the Church and Society Committee which is basically a liberal Democrat political group.
Traditions have to start somewhere...
Also, IIRC, the whole gender-neutral thing has been going around the UMC for a while now. It is now being codified.
Witchcraft!
One more confirmation that leaving the UMC was the correct decision.
A lot of seminaries and church HQ have been infiltrated by liberals.
I had the (non-joy) of working for one at a church organization years ago. They couldn’t understand why their sales fell off. It was their liberal garbage.
no it won’t.
the UMC has been leftist for a very long time.
my father-in-law was a UMC minister ordained in 1961 and he has always been a bat-shite crazy liberal.
would remind that birds of a feather . . .
People have left our UMC in droves. They are just deaf to what is happening because they disguise their politics as “Social Justice”.
The more they liberalize, the more people leave. Our conservative friends say “Stay and fight” and I always respond “You are not fighting”. Disagreeing with the liberals is deemed “divisiveness” and disagreeing with conservatives is seen as “standing up for justice”.
Yes, this is true.
But in the traditional sense of the word for something to be traditional it has to be practiced over multiple generations.
How long is a generation?
The gender-neutral crowd was in full force in the ‘90s, IIRC. And this follows their path of having women elders and pastors, which has been going on since the ‘70s.
Like I said, it is just now being codified.
Common usage today is 20 years. The time from the birth of a child until that child births the next generation.
But I prefer the old usage which is the biblical usage which is the life span of a man; three score and ten or seventy years.
So, for something to be a tradition it would need to be practiced a minimum of 140 years.
Because Jesus is described as a man in the historical Gospels, therefore he is a/the Son. They are stuck with it.
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