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Where is the Church?
One Peter Five ^ | July 12, 2018 | Steve Skojec

Posted on 07/12/2018 7:36:35 PM PDT by ebb tide

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1 posted on 07/12/2018 7:36:35 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Good article.


2 posted on 07/12/2018 7:41:57 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ebb tide

Right here;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=mA54NBtPKdI


3 posted on 07/12/2018 7:42:18 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (screanigng t)
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To: ebb tide

One Holy Catholic Apostolic Bump


4 posted on 07/12/2018 7:45:42 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: ebb tide

The Church is where it has always been; within the hearts and souls of those who believe in Christ as our Savior.
A beautiful Church is very nice, but not always essential. I very rarely go to Church.
I admit that freely. But that does not change my knowledge of and attachment to my faith. Nothing in the secular world can change that except for me, and I wish never to alter or lose that bond with God.


5 posted on 07/12/2018 7:48:33 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: Salvation

The article starts with a specious conflation, so how is it a ‘good’ article? The Catholic Church is not the whole body of believers in Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord, so the starting premise is a deception perhaps.


6 posted on 07/12/2018 7:53:02 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: ebb tide

The Church of the end times will be a secretive place. A place where only the true, the faithful will congregate. Meanwhile, the hijacked Church will worship Satan.

We are there aren’t we? These indeed are the end of times.

Drove by a Church the other day that had a Rainbow flag directly under the US flag. Damn...


7 posted on 07/12/2018 7:54:40 PM PDT by Professional
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To: MHGinTN
Let's draw a distinction here.

In the context of the article, I will agree with you. The big "C" Catholic Church is Rome and while I believe that there is a remnant in that church, I too believe that it does NOT contain the whole body of believers.

However there is the small "c" catholic church which can be paraphrased as the "universal" church that does contain the whole of the body of Christ. Thus when we, as protestants, declare our faith using the Apostle's Creed, and we state that we "believe in the holy catholic church...". It does not mean that we are pledging allegiance to Rome, but rather acknowledging that we are members of a worldwide body and that we have communion with one another through Christ.

8 posted on 07/12/2018 8:12:50 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Professional

The Revelation 12:1-2 Great Sign in the Heavens happened on September 23-24, 2017. The Isaiah 38-39 coalition seems to be forming. Damascus is almost a ruinous heap per Isaiah 17. If President Trump does to Iran what he did to North Korea, then “they” will be saying peace and security. We’ve got earthquakes in various places. Asteroids seem to be getting by the detection systems. It’s been two days (thousand years) since Jesus first coming.

I would say we are pretty close to the Second Coming.


9 posted on 07/12/2018 8:22:56 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: ebb tide

Money issues are collapsing the church. Millions$ are being spent by the Cardinals and Bishops that are unaccounted for. Yet they expect pew sitting Catholics to keep throwing their envelopes into the collection basket every Sunday.

The Cardinals and Bishops in the US are playing the church going Catholics for fools. But it is unraveling. More churches will be closed in the next five years as the older church supporters die off. One day the collection basket will be empty.


10 posted on 07/12/2018 8:24:20 PM PDT by EC Washington
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To: P8riot

Amen. Selah!


11 posted on 07/12/2018 8:33:40 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: EC Washington

And people are sick of seeing their envelopes going to fund illegal aliens. Sick of liberal minded homilies


12 posted on 07/12/2018 8:46:09 PM PDT by Phillyred
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Salvation

Thanks for the bump.


13 posted on 07/12/2018 8:50:30 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

I think if someone wants to really know how it is going, just call up random Catholic churches and ask how they are doing things that are concerning. You are a millionaire moving into the area and are looking for a local church to join and are willing to donate heavily if they do these things and are willing keep it quiet per ‘gay marriages’ or blessings or priestesses or giving communion to your protestant spouse or whatever. And see what they say.

Freegards


14 posted on 07/12/2018 8:58:36 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: ebb tide

I have certainly found it more conducive to my spiritual health, not to mention a positive disposition, to ignore most of what comes out of Rome these days.


15 posted on 07/12/2018 9:18:21 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: ebb tide

Relax. It was much worse... in every generation. Just read one encyclical from each of the last five centuries and learned how the Church situation has always been dire, rough, and on edge. Pope Francis? Goofball. Gay Cardinals? Going to hell. FSSP and Christ the King seminaries? Will fix most things.

If a person starts wringing his hands over the state of the Church, then he needs a vacation.


16 posted on 07/12/2018 11:15:54 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94))
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Matthew 18:20 For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I among them.

We are the church as Christ lives IN each and every believer.

You don't *GO* to a church, you ARE the church.

1 Corinthians 3:16-17 Do you not know that you are God's temple and that God's Spirit dwells in you? If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him. For God's temple is holy and you are that temple.

1 Corinthians 6:19-20 Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body.

Matthew 18:20 For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I among them.

Interestingly, the early church met in homes, not church buildings.

Acts 20:20 "yet I never shrank from telling you the truth, either publicly or in your homes."

Romans 16:5 "Please give my greetings to the church that meets in their home."

Romans 16:5 Greet also the church in their house. Greet my beloved Epaenetus, who was the first convert to Christ in Asia.

1 Corinthians 16:19 The churches of Asia send you greetings. Aquila and Prisca, together with the church in their house, send you hearty greetings in the Lord.

Colossians 4:15 Give my greetings to the brothers at Laodicea, and to Nympha and the church in her house.

Philemon 1:1-3 and Apphia our sister and Archippus our fellow soldier, and the church in your house:

17 posted on 07/13/2018 5:07:51 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: Falconspeed
Nothing has been fixed in the Catholic church for over 1,000 years.

One thousand years ago, they were wrestling with the same issues of immorality and corruption as the Roman Catholic church today does.

St. Peter Damian's Book of Gomorrah: Homosexual Situation Graver than Damian's Time

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/929551/posts

Sure, keep your hopes up. The *fix* is just around the corner, as it has been for 1,000 years already.

Doesn't seem like it's going to happen in your lifetime either.

The few men who speak out, like Msgr Pope, get reigned in pretty quickly.

So who's going to *fix* it? Cause it sure isn't those at the top. They just watch each other's backs.

18 posted on 07/13/2018 5:13:39 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: Ransomed

Brilliant plan, and I suspect the results would be shocking.


19 posted on 07/13/2018 5:31:59 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Three most annoying words on the internet - "Watch the Video")
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To: SubMareener
If President Trump does to Iran what he did to North Korea, then “they” will be saying peace and security.

People said there was peace at the end of WW1 and WW2. Israel is the focal point of prophecy, not America or North Korea. And according to 2 Thess, the great falling away has to happen first.

20 posted on 07/13/2018 8:08:09 AM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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