Posted on 10/10/2018 1:31:10 PM PDT by ebb tide
And for the record, I have decided to join the Society of St. Pius I. You want TRADITIONAL Catholicism, baby, you gotta go whole hog!
I humbly suggest that if you go back and read my commentary in the other thread, you'll see that I've been saying the same thing all along.
The Church did do something then:
Pope St. Pius V:
“Therefore, wishing to pursue with greater rigor than we have exerted since the beginning of our pontificate, we establish that any priest or member of the clergy, either secular or regular, who commits such an execrable crime, by force of the present law be deprived of every clerical privilege, of every post, dignity and ecclesiastical benefit, and having been degraded by an ecclesiastical judge, let him be immediately delivered to the secular authority to be put to death, as mandated by law as the fitting punishment for laymen who have sunk into this abyss,”
I’m cool with that. Cuts down on recidivism.
Thanks, but I never left it.
And this confusion of times points to the danger of using the term "Traditional" ... in 2000 years of history, what is "Traditional"? Were the 1930s, 1940s or 1950s "Traditional"? The actions taken with respect to sodomites, heretics, and infidels was to shuffle them around or temporarily silence them. Some of the malefactors at V-2 had, in fact, been told to shut up earlier ... then allowed back in. They should have been laicized and excommunicated. Which response to such folk is "Traditional"?
And to keep with the topic of this thread ...
One does not get to the point of having coked-up sodomite orgies in the Vatican without being a known queer for a long time. This dude needed to be kicked out a long time ago. Probably in about 1960.
Hah! Not like we of the SSPI have it!
Yeah, right ... These days, the "secular authority" would award them a medal for "courage" ...
But at least they'd be somebody else's problem.
How about a pope who covers up for him and other homosexual clergy?
What do you suppose I think of him?
Never said you didn't. Why so combative?
If you have anything resembling a sense of humor, please go read the article at my “SSPI” link.
Is this a LOL?
If not, then I want to note that the OT was written in Hebrew, not Greek.
Just sayin’
If he was ordained on 28 June 1962, that was before the Second Vatican Council, which opened on 11 Oct. 1962.
The Oath Against Modernism, required by all religious to proclaim as mandated by Pope St. Pius X in 1910, was rescinded by Paul VI in 1967.
Paul VI suppressed the TLM, in favor of Bugnini's Mess. He returned to the Turks their flag captured by the Christian fleet at the Battle of Lepanto. He proclaimed the U.N. to be the greatest hope for mankind.
Paul VI was born, raised, ordained, consecrated and elected to the papacy all prior to VCII.
Paul VI will be canonized by a pope who was elected post-VCII this very month. The same pope who has just used the Blessed Mother for his nefarious plans:
“Mary cannot be the mother of the corrupt because the corrupt would sell their own mother, they would sell their belongings to a family, to a people,” the pope said. “They look for their own profit, whether it’s economic, intellectual, political, of any kind.”
Have you noticed that all the popes who have been canonized by the post-conciliar popes were their own fellow post-conciliar predecessor popes?
It seems like they’re trying perpetuate the “New Pentecost” and forget the real Pentecost.
Paul VI was born, raised, ordained, consecrated and elected to the papacy all prior to VCII.
He was elected Pope during V-2 ... even with that, you're supporting my point that the various forms of rot which exploded after V-2 existed in large quantity in the Church before V-2.
As to your quote, presumably from FtTH ... it doesn't even make sense. The man is gibbering.
Yes, he was. However, his predecessor, John XXIII is quoted as saying his last words on his deathbed, as reported by Jean Guitton, the only Catholic layman to serve as a peritus at the Council: "Stop the Council; stop the Council."
Paul VI kept it going.
And here we are today. Thanks to the Council.
I've already pointed out to you that Pope St. Pius X was aware of the rot back in 1907.
The rot is modernism and its spawn was VCII and the Novus Ordo. And I hope you know what "novus" means.
He's been gibbering since his election, to put it kindly.
By the way, he was ordained a priest in 1969, post VCII.
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