Posted on 12/24/2018 8:22:14 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Consider their life....not their death.
I wouldn’t want to bet eternity on it.
God is ALL MERCIFUL! If you believe this, then all souls will have an OPPORTUNITY through merit in this life or the next, to enter the gates of Heaven.
The love of God is infinite. Let God sort it out.
“Are Christians who commit suicide condemned to Hell?”
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No!!!
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Jesus committed suicide by refusing to fight, is he in hell?
I always thought the answer was YES. However a person who takes his own life is not in their ‘right’ mind, so is YES still the correct answer? Just askin’.
It’s like fleas arguing over who owns the dog.
Crocodile Dundee.
I don't think it's something that can be earned (if you accept that man is a fallen creature).
Until we die, we’ll never know.
Besides, Hell is defined differently by everyone.
Jesus committed suicide by refusing to fight, is he in hell?
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Jesus would have committed Harakiri if the Romans refused to crucify him? I don’t think so. It’s a stretch to call Jesus’ death “suicide”.
Yes!!!
And neither one of us knows for sure. The only solid example of suicide we have is Judas killing himself over guilt of betrayal. It is significant to say the Bible does not record him as having ever repented. The argument probably needs to be over repentance, not suicide. I don't know....
We really don’t know, because judgment is not ours to make and only God knows the truth.
The prosciption against suicide (at least in the Catholic Church and traditional Christianity) is very severe, and suicides were generally not buried in consecrated ground (the church cemetery, that is). But basically this was this was meant to discourage others from taking that route, and also to underline the seriousness of rejecting God’s gift of life and God’s mercy. Remember, Judas committed suicide when he realized what he had done...even though, had he repented, the Lord would without doubt have pardoned him.
Now that suicide is practically an epidemic in the US, it is very good to reinforce the idea that suicide is the ultimate rejection of God’s gift. Also, in purely secular terms, I once heard it described as a permanent solution to a temporary problem. So people need the carrot (hope) and the stick (damnation) to get past it.
But nobody really knows how God judges anybody, suicide or not. And that was actually the point the priest was trying to make in his homily in Detroit, except that the parents...who no doubt felt very guilty or perhaps were trying to assuage their guilt for not having dealt with whatever problems the boy had that led to his suicide...basically wanted to pretend it had never happened, probably because they don’t actually believe in eternal life.
I don’t think a sacrificial death (i.e., giving your life to save others) falls within the definition of “suicide.”
Jesus didn’t commit suicide anymore than a soldier who throws himself on a grenade to save his fellow troops commits suicide. Anymore than a husband who shields his wife from bullets commits suicide.
God man, show some common sense.
No.
Dangerous question. It’s not a good idea to assure people who are contemplating such a thing that they will not be condemned for it. The thought of winding up in hell may stop many suicides. OTOH, a person who has suffered a spirit-crushing life is certainly known to a merciful Father.
Deliberate murder, including self murder, is a grave sin... “but the Lord pondereth the heart.” -Proverbs 21:2
As with many things, it is best not to making assertions above our paygrade and leave the judging of souls to Him.
“No one goes to Hell on a technicality.” -Popular expression among Orthodox elders.
It's about wanting to escape the hurt, pain, doubt. Doubt in God most of all. When you hate yourself for doubting that God is there or that He hears you or that your life is a mistake He made... then death becomes all the more tempting. Maybe you'll end up in Heaven. Maybe you'll go to Hell. Either is preferable to the pain. If God sends you to Hell, at least He cared enough for that one fleeting moment in His eternal mind to think about you. It's enough of a comforting thought to lead one over the edge or pretty damn too close to it.
I want to believe that He has mercy on those who take their own lives, but otherwise would never contemplate it had their minds not been so wracked with hurt that can't be flicked off like a light switch, no matter how some Christians think it can.
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