How valleys and canyons formed during Noah’s Flood

Creation Ministries International ^ | 5-8-19 | Michael Oard

[deport]

I have found the following to be an interesting read about history.
Its accuracy can be argued but floods and ice did have a forming
pattern I believe.

A 20 minute or so read if you have time and the topic interest you

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/10/a-brief-history-of-everyone-who-ever-lived/537942/
A New History of the First Peoples in the Americas

[Just mythoughts]

No God did not create ‘everything’ in six days... Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

No where in the whole of the WORD is there given a ‘time stamp’ when ‘In the beginning’ began... However, planted throughout the WORD we are given glimpses of what took place before the ‘days’ of Genesis ...

Peter tells us exactly how the Heavenly Father marks time... as well as describing three heave/earth ages (worlds) ... Notice Peter also describes a ‘flood’...

3 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:

2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:

3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.

18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

It is quite telling how some denominations claiming Peter their ‘rock’, completely and totally ignore what Peter penned...

So since a ‘day’ with the Lord is as a thousand years... that would then make the days of creation thousands of years NOT a 24/7 hour day. That alone makes this earth + more than 6,000 years old.

Sorry, Jeremiah was given the very specific words used in Genesis 1:2, you cannot, not with credibility put them anywhere else. Why do you think God called his darlings ‘stupid’... that is what that word sottish literally means.

[onedoug]

Don’t want to seem to be blowing his horn, but Dennis Prager’s ‘Rational Bible’ series has just come out detailing “Genesis: God, Creation and Destruction”.

It’s the second volume after his “Exodus” which details his expansive knowledge of the texts line by line, as well as acknowledges the insights of so many others - Jews and Christians - whom he readily identifies.

I would also recommend The Torah of which my favorite version so far is that edited by the late JH Hertz, “The Pentateuch and Haftorahs”, wherein the Hebrew text is well translated, and the English footnotes are indispensable to a continually deeper insight into the material.

There are many Talmud studies about, but getting into the works itself would seem daunting as there are many volumes.

[dartuser]

Sorry, Jeremiah was given the very specific words used in Genesis 1:2, you cannot, not with credibility put them anywhere else.

Really, that is your evidence? That Jeremiah used the same words?

You have broken so many fundamental rules of Biblical interpretation in one or two paragraphs. Your panoply of the text is missing serious boundaries via Biblical theology.

Anyway ... I vaguely recall we sparred a few years ago on this very topic. I would say it should end like the last one.

I shutter to think who you think the morning stars and the sons of God are in Job 38.

[Just mythoughts]

Whose rules? Just who did Christ warn us that would sew seeds of deception? Those that come in His name. What is your problem with Job?

[Hot Tabasco]

Yet again, this is NOT ‘news/activism’.

Who cares!........I suspect that your forum preferences are "Everything", just as the vast majority of other members here are. So what the heck does it matter if it's "News/Activism" or in any other forum group".........Sheesh, get a life.

[wally_bert]

https://youtu.be/xf4pUZPaz5k

[Mean Daddy]

Christ spoke of Noah and Adam, so if they didn’t exist, he’s a liar?

[daniel1212]

daniel1212 proved you wrong.

What was reason-ably demonstrated to be absurd is to be denying that Behemoth (and Leviathan) could be a dino, with an est. 75% of non-avian dinos remaining to be discovered, and with God stating that He created it along with man, and being presented as a example of His literally power, wisdom and knowledge, which instead was relegated to being a mythological, non-actual being. God being able to control such or only use mythological creatures as illustrative of His powers is somehow supposed to be impressive and convicting and comforting to Job and us. Kind of like a Docetist or Gnostic Christ.

[Sontagged]

Let's see... The Bible says there were giants living on the earth and, of course, we have evidence of giant trees on every continent in the world...part of the pre-Flood world.

The Bible says that Joshua's spies reported back that they were like "grasshoppers" next to these giants, the spawn of Anak, the enemies of the ancient Jews and of God.

Numbers 13:33

"... And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, who come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight."

"And there we saw the Nephilim, the sons of Anak, who come of the Nephilim; and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight."

But you are arguing that in this land of the Giants that the Bible is somehow wrong or not the (scientific) Truth because you claim it doesn't mention dinosaurs? Is this because you are trying to factor in "scientism" with the Word of God, which preaches that dinosaurs lived before man?

Then I would ask you to reconsider your position as a Christian, in light of the fact the Word is the final authority in all things...

From the article linked below:

"It is a well-known fact that a significant number of people who are identified with the larger community of “Christendom” have accepted the evolutionary propaganda that dinosaurs lived millions of years before man arrived upon the planet.

It is also fairly safe to say that many Christian young people have laid aside the biblical information on this matter (if, indeed, they ever were taught it), and they have ingested the evolutionary dogma which asserts that men and dinosaurs were never contemporary.

This issue is but a symptom of a much larger problem — the compromise of biblical truth in deference to the mystique of that “religion” known as scientism."

This article shows the problem with your arguments about behemoths and dinosaurs not being in the bible... https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/1007-job-behemoth-and-dinosaurs

And remember... the word of God is eternal because the word of God is God...

...and any false assumption or false argument you bring to it will be crushed by it.

(But I'm sure you already know that the Word will always demolish every false argument as a Christian... "the Word is alive and active..." etc., etc.)