Some Advice from Mother Church

Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 08-22-19 | Msgr. Charles Pope

[Al Hitan]

I would challenge any pastor with the same request - where is that in scripture

Have you? They’re easy to contact. Have them explain it to you, Then once you’re own church explains why they use the same phrase you can come back and inform us why the LCMS district president is in the wrong.

[af_vet_1981]

For a saved Christian, that has been taken care of at the cross.

• And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;
• I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
• So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
• Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
• I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
• As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
• Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
• To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
• He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Revelation, Catholic chapter three, Protestant verses fourteen to twenty two,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

[aMorePerfectUnion]

Random Verse Generation Placemarker.

[af_vet_1981]

Random Verse Generation Placemarker.

Holy scripture is neither random, nor generated by man. The phrase could be a symptom of one who is neither cold nor hot.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

Holy scripture is neither random, nor generated by man.

So sorry I wasn't clear.

I was referring to your practice of posting scripture at random.

[af_vet_1981]

So sorry I wasn't clear.

I was referring to your practice of posting scripture at random.

It is not posted at random. To claim so after being corrected would be mind reading.

[Mark17]

I see you are still randomly generating verses again. I guess maybe there is no cure for it. 😁
By the way bro, my son seems to be doing well in USAF pilot training. 👍 He had some air sickness trouble, but is doing better now. The cure for air sickness, is get back in the aircraft, and get it back on the runway, and pour the coals to it.

[af_vet_1981]

I see you are still randomly generating verses again.

False; the holy scriptures are neither random, nor generated by man. The are referenced in the response. The natural man does not understand them for they are foolishness to him.

[Mark17]

The natural man does not understand them for they are foolishness to him.

I was kind of thinking the same about other people, and wondering when they will understand spiritual concepts. I won’t mention any names, but I think the guilty parties know who they are. 😁🤣 You are entitled to your opinion bro, but I am not required to agree with it. 😁😆 Have a nice eternity. I don’t know if you plan to be in Heaven, but if you choose not to go there, all I can say is, that’s on you bro. 😂 I am just not buying what you are selling. 👎🤗☝️

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“It is not posted at random. To claim so after being corrected would be mind reading.

That’s just it.

It appears totally random to people reading this thread.

That’s how it came to be known as RVG.

[papertyger]

For a saved Christian, that has been taken care of at the cross.

So has been said; unfortunately there are so many verses describing those who are rejected that don’t quite square with such theology.

Which goes to explain much about why those who reject such theology are attacked as if by wild snarling dogs.

“They were never REALLY ‘saved’” is such a convenient excuse for dismissing confutation.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“So has been said; unfortunately there are so many verses describing those who are rejected that don’t quite square with such theology.”

After seminary, I spent considerable time with each of these passages.

There is no passage, in context, and compared to other Scripture that contradicts what I posted.

Best.

[papertyger]

There is no passage, in context, and compared to other Scripture that contradicts what I posted.

Sure, when one makes themselves and those who agree with them the arbiter of "context" and which Scriptures they pick to "compare."

But tell me, what did seminary cover between the end of the first and beginning of the sixteenth centuries?

[papertyger]

Can you provide even one Scripture reference that defines the corpus of “Scripture?”

For that matter, can you find one reference that shows “every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. Matt 4:4” is contained in the Scripture?

[aMorePerfectUnion]

Sure, when one makes themselves and those who agree with them the arbiter of "context" and which Scriptures they pick to "compare."

That's just it. It is comparison of all Scripture. Not selected Scriptures.

[papertyger]

If they act immorally, they are fired... as Scripture teaches.

Where?

Why doesn’t your church obey Scripture??

Why does yours "make up" Scripture?

[papertyger]

That's just it. It is comparison of all Scripture. Not selected Scriptures.

So by comparing nothing in particular (because claiming to focus on "everything" is the same as focusing on NOTHING) one arrives at the previously mentioned "conclusion?"

How is that not circular reasoning, by definition?

[aMorePerfectUnion]

So by comparing nothing in particular

No, I specified everything in particular that comprises Scripture.

Theology must always consider the totality of revelation.

This may be beyond your life experience or training, as it is for most people.

[papertyger]

Random Verse Generation Placemarker.

Not an argument.

[papertyger]

I was referring to your practice of posting scripture at random.

Now THAT is an ad hominem attack.