Posted on 11/26/2019 8:19:32 AM PST by SeekAndFind
1–9 But there arose also false prophets among the people, even as also among you there shall be false teachers, who will be of such a character as to bring in alongside [of true doctrine] destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who purchased them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their licentious conduct to its consummation, on account of whom the way of the truth will be reviled. And in the sphere of covetousness, with fabricated words they will exploit you, for whom from ancient times their judgment has not been idle [i.e., it is being prepared], and their destruction is not sleeping. For, in view of the fact that God did not spare angels who sinned, but having thrust them down into Tartarus, committed them to pits of nether-world gloom, being reserved for judgment, and did not spare the ancient world, but preserved Noah as the eighth person [to be preserved], a proclaimer of righteousness, having let loose the deluge upon the world of those who were destitute of reverential awe towards God, and the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha having reduced to ashes, He condemned them to destruction, having constituted them a permanent example to the ungodly of things about to come; and righteous Lot, completely worn down by the manner of life of the lawless in the sphere of unbridled lust He delivered, for, in seeing and hearing, the aforementioned righteous one, having settled down permanently among them, day in, day out, tormented his righteous soul with their lawless works. The Lord knows how to be delivering the godly out of testing and temptation but to be reserving the unrighteous for the day of judgment to be punished.Wuest, K. S. (1961). The New Testament: an expanded translation (2 Pe 2:1–9). Grand Rapids, MI: Eerdmans.
Which is NOT in conflict with what the author theorizes, or with what YEC proponents theorize.
If the flood was limited to a rather local area, AND all humanity still lived in that area (which is very likely as not much time had passed since creation), then all humanity, except for Noah and his family, would be wiped out. As would all animal life in that area.
My view as well. It is also my opinion that the entire world was tropical, until the Flood. My next question would be, who were the Nephilim?
My view as well. It is also my opinion that the entire world was tropical, until the Flood. My next question would be, who were the Nephilim?
Offspring of the “Sons of God” and the “Daughters of Men.”
In other words, the attempt to corrupt the human bloodline in order to prevent the Messiah.
"He spent a lot of it on hookers and blow. That falls under "stimulus spending," doesn't it?"
Wrong thread....
Whenever there is a new novel interpretation of scripture ... I always ask myself "What theological problem in the text is he trying to solve?"
In this case, it is not a theological problem in text ... it's his insistence that science must dictate the interpretation of scripture so that unbelievers will be able to believe.
Newsflash Dr. Ross ... unbelievers are unbelievers because they refuse to believe ... not because the Bible is unbelievable.
“Whats significant is that the Ark finally came to rest, and mankind was saved from the judgment, on the same date (17 Nisan/Aviv) as Christ rose from the dead. (Mankind was spared on both dates.)”
The Hebrew calander was based on variable lunar cycles.
The Bible says seventh month. Nisan is now the first month.
To understand whether or not the flood covered all of the Earth, the Bible is just one source from that region. If we look at other civilizations that existed during that time, meaning we look at all over the Earth, we do find that there are tales of such an event occurring in their histories. However for this to be promulgated by those civilizations, more than Noah and his family would have had to have survived this great event. The Bible is true a great flood happened. When did it happen is not clear as the flood goes much further back than we realize and those who survived were more than Noah and his family. Otherwise we would not have records of it in many different civilizations around the globe. Let me be clear, the Bible is not wrong on the account of a great worldwide flood happening as it did happen. The rest of the story is circumspect.
All the water vapor in the atmosphere is sufficient to cover the Earth to a depth of 15 feet.
Hopr it all don’t rain at once.
I believe you are correct sir. Jesus could not be born from a hybrid creature (Nephilim) There might have been another reason too. Only 1/3 of the angels fell with Satan, so he has a 2 to 1 disadvantage. He might have been trying to even up the numbers, but its hard to tell. We dont know for sure. 😁 I also heard that the in the 120 years it took for Noah to build the Ark, that Noah, Methuselah, possibly Lamech were preaching, so its not like the people didnt know a Flood was coming. They knew, and I think it was only a few days after Methuselah died, the Flood began. 🤗
What you’re suggesting does seem reasonable.
The earth is a very big, very complex machine that God made for us. He knows how to make parts of that machine “malfunction” when He wants it to do something out of the ordinary.
Ask AOC. She has all the answers on climate at her finger tips.
Yes.
The Flood covered the whole earth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8kjK2PMOao
Interview with Dr. John Baumgardner
John Baumgardner PhD, is geophysicist. Dr. Baumgardner was employed at one of the most prestigious research institutes — Los Alamos National Laboratory, in New Mexico. He has developed a 3D computer program called TERRA which models Earth’s plate tectonics. This was such an important and useful program he was interviewed by US & World Report in 1997.
Those who support evolution depend on radiometric dating of rocks to provide evidence that the Earth is 6.4 billion years old. In this interview Jim Bendewald asks Dr. Baumgardner about radiometric dating and the RATE project. The discussion includes the RATE project results which challenge the long ages of Earth’s history. Carbon dating in coal is also discussed as well as carbon in diamonds which should long be gone if Earth is as old as the evolutionists claim.
This was an extremely important research project. It provided empirical data as evidence for a much younger Earth than evolutionists are willing to accept. Therein lies the problem. No matter how clear the data for disproving evolution, those committed to material causes will dismiss the evidence.
Watch this video to learn about the RATE project, understand what is at stake and learn of the RATE results.
Yes.
The Flood covered the whole earth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8kjK2PMOao
Interview with Dr. John Baumgardner
“John Baumgardner PhD, is geophysicist. Dr. Baumgardner was employed at one of the most prestigious research institutes Los Alamos National Laboratory, in New Mexico. He has developed a 3D computer program called TERRA which models Earths plate tectonics. This was such an important and useful program he was interviewed by US & World Report in 1997.
Those who support evolution depend on radiometric dating of rocks to provide evidence that the Earth is 6.4 billion years old. In this interview Jim Bendewald asks Dr. Baumgardner about radiometric dating and the RATE project. The discussion includes the RATE project results which challenge the long ages of Earths history. Carbon dating in coal is also discussed as well as carbon in diamonds which should long be gone if Earth is as old as the evolutionists claim.
This was an extremely important research project. It provided empirical data as evidence for a much younger Earth than evolutionists are willing to accept. Therein lies the problem. No matter how clear the data for disproving evolution, those committed to material causes will dismiss the evidence.
Watch this video to learn about the RATE project, understand what is at stake and learn of the RATE results.”
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"Did you know that?"
Ah, "Shock Dynamics" - a really interesting theory: (http://www.newgeology.us/)
“However for this to be promulgated by those civilizations, more than Noah and his family would have had to have survived this great event.”
Why? The Bible says Noah was the father of all the nations we see today.
In the Biblical view, for example, the Chinese do not have also have a flood story because there were people alive in China who survived the flood, but because the Chinese are also descended from Noah and brought a version of the story with them when they traveled to China.
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