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Did the flood of Noah cover the entire earth? Astrophysicist Hugh Ross on what the Bible says
Christian Post ^ | 11/26/2019 | Brandon Showalter

Posted on 11/26/2019 8:19:32 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Theo

This is a reasoned theory, and all it would take would be for a substantial fissure to occur likely in the Pacific Ocean floor. Once the cold ocean water hit the hydroxide containing Ringwoodite, it could result in a vast release of hot water in a limited chain reaction.

Reaching the ocean surface, this billowing hot water would produce great clouds and rain over a vast area. The result would be rapidly rising ocean levels, as well as melting icecaps, and continual rain.


61 posted on 11/26/2019 12:08:44 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Liberalism is the belief everyone else should be in treatment for your disorder.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Traditional Jewish dating of Noah’s flood is 2105 BC.


62 posted on 11/26/2019 12:09:36 PM PST by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: Honest Nigerian
Exponential growth of the population. The formula for exponential growth of a variable x at the growth rate r, as time t goes on in discrete intervals (that is, at integer times 0, 1, 2, 3, ...), is x t = x 0 ( 1 + r ) t {\displaystyle x_{t}=x_{0}(1+r)^{t}}
63 posted on 11/26/2019 12:18:48 PM PST by the_daug
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To: SeekAndFind

Who cares what non Christians think about the flood? They don’t accept any of the miracles in the Bible. So you think you are going to lead someone to Christ by agreeing with their skepticism of the Word of God?

If you cast doubt on the flood, how are you going to convince a non Believer about the Diety of Christ, the Virgin Birth? The sacrifice for our Sins on the Cross, the resurrection and his imminent coming again to judge the world?

Ross is just an apologist for Science. He puts more faith in his science than he does the scripture. Then he tries to justify his weak faith by his strong belief in crap like evolution.


64 posted on 11/26/2019 12:26:00 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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To: Hot Tabasco
If the flood destroyed all men except for Noah's family (total of 8), how could we possibly have 7.7 billion people on the planet today?

Did you flunk sex education?

65 posted on 11/26/2019 12:28:07 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Truly fascinating! I had never heard of Ringwoodite before. Amazing.


66 posted on 11/26/2019 12:37:21 PM PST by Theo (FReeping since 1998 ... drain the swamp.)
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To: V_TWIN
“How long can you tread water?”
Not 40 days...that’s for sure

I don't have to tread water as I have enough body fat that I FLOAT.
All I have to do is just kick a bit and move the arms in whatever direction I want to go.

Skinnies can't float. Aw.

67 posted on 11/26/2019 12:41:07 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: P-Marlowe
his strong belief in crap like evolution

You are profoundly mistaken: I've personally known Hugh Ross for four decades and he has always stridently and completely rejected evolution.

68 posted on 11/26/2019 12:51:51 PM PST by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hugh Ross leads a ministry that seeks to shoehorn God’s creation into man’s theories so that, he believes, it will be more palatable to the more “intelligent” seeker. He also believes there were primitive humans before Adam and Eve.

You can see his agenda in this article in the statement: “When non-Christians discover that the Bible does not teach that the floodwaters covered the whole earth they are more open to considering its claims as a serious, inerrant document, Ross explained.

In other words, we need to re-interpret those parts with which we are uncomfortable so that people won’t think we are gullible, mouth-breathing, knuckle draggers.

He thinks today’s “science” has made this necessary. What he doesn’t see is that the long view of today’s speculative science has been anything but reliable. True science has given us advances in technology and medicine etc... but speculative science i.e. paleo-anthropology, archaeology and others can be highly agenda-driven and unreliable. Yes, they do dig stuff up, but what they say about them is where things often go sideways.


69 posted on 11/26/2019 1:05:27 PM PST by Drawsing (Fools show their annoyance at once, the prudent man overlooks an insult. Proverbs 12:16)
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To: Hebrews 11:6

What miracles does he accept?

He’s a cafeteria believer. If a miracle doesn’t meet with his understanding of science, then he rejects the scripture in favor of his unshakable belief in Scientific Consensus.

Jesus confirmed the flood, Jonah, sodom and Gomorrah, the unique creation of Adam and Eve, the authorship of the Torah by Moses, the Garden of Eden, the seven day creation....

Who is Hugh Ross to question Jesus?

IMHO he is a non believer.


70 posted on 11/26/2019 1:06:16 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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To: P-Marlowe
Did you flunk sex education?

Since you were teaching the class, yes I did since you were focused on the boys.

Noah, his wife, three sons and their wives = 8

Given the dates I posted, how did we end up with 7.7 billion people in that time frame? Now give me a legitimate answer instead of being a jerk...........

71 posted on 11/26/2019 1:13:38 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Never take a centipede shopping for shoes)
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To: Hot Tabasco; P-Marlowe

If 40 years is a generation and Noah was 3000 years ago, then that is 75 generations.

2 to the 75th power is 3.77789E+22

That’s 22 places before the decimal hits, iirc. 7 billion is just 10 places.

Plenty of room for just 2 people to have generated 7 billion still living. And we’re starting with 3 breeding pairs.


72 posted on 11/26/2019 1:48:17 PM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: P-Marlowe
Jesus AND HUGH ROSS confirmed the flood, Jonah, sodom and Gomorrah, the unique creation of Adam and Eve, the authorship of the Torah by Moses, the Garden of Eden, the seven day creation...

As I said, your misunderstanding of Hugh's beliefs is profound.

73 posted on 11/26/2019 2:00:04 PM PST by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: xzins
And we’re starting with 3 breeding pairs.

So why no characteristics of typical family inbreeding which should have occurred in at least the third generation?

And how does that account for the different body characteristics between white anglos, hispanics, chinese, blacks and Europeans?

74 posted on 11/26/2019 2:20:28 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Never take a centipede shopping for shoes)
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To: Hebrews 11:6

He confirms the flood but he doesn’t believe the flood. He confirms the creation of Adam and Eve but believes the creation was billions of years in the making and that there were millions of years between the fifth and sixth day.

The Bible teaches a young earth and 7 day creation. Jesus taught it. Ross doesn’t believe it.


75 posted on 11/26/2019 2:25:32 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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To: P-Marlowe
The Bible teaches a young earth and 7 day creation.

By your interpretation. But that was not Jesus' interpretation nor teaching.

76 posted on 11/26/2019 2:38:37 PM PST by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: Hebrews 11:6

In John 5:45–47, Jesus says, “Do not think that I shall accuse you to the Father; there is one who accuses you—Moses, in whom you trust. For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?”

Now Moses said that God created the heavens and the earth in Six days and rested on the seventh. Jesus did not say that God created the heavens and the earth in 6 Billion years and then rested for another Billion years. He rested exactly one day. 24 hours. If man was not created in a 24 hour day then How long did God rest? However long it took God to create the heavens and the earth, he rested for 1/7th of the time.

Your interpretation is completely at odds with both scripture and logic.

Who are you going to believe? Moses and Jesus or your buddy Hugh Ross?


77 posted on 11/26/2019 2:58:04 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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To: teeman8r

And if you happened to be by the edge of the flood, you could just step out.


78 posted on 11/26/2019 2:58:47 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll eventually get what you deserve)
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To: fishtank
Hugh Ross also told me face to face that he didn't believe that God is capable of building a literal New Jerusalem

That right there is blasphemy. If he believes that there is anything God can’t do, then he is not a believer. He puts his faith in gravity.

79 posted on 11/26/2019 3:08:00 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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To: P-Marlowe

Moses wrote of creation “yoms,” a Hebrew word with four different literal meanings, among them being “a twenty-four hour day” and another being “a long indefinite period.” (Note that ancient Hebrew had no other word for the latter.) Moses left it to the reader to decide which was his intended meaning, through contextual clues (which are abundant).


80 posted on 11/26/2019 3:13:37 PM PST by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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