Oregon Woman Sues Mormon Church for Reporting Husband’s Confession

BREITBART ^ | January 10, 2020 | Nate Church

[j.havenfarm]

... or coaches, Scout leaders, entertainment and media personalities. Oh, I could go on and on but I’d hate to ruin a perfectly good hackneyed anti-Catholic slam

[fr_freak]

I’m not even going to pretend to know wtf you’re talking about. Get a grip on yourself.

[fr_freak]

If a priest knew about pizzagate? Epstein Island? Jeffrey Dahmer? You think God wants them to sit there silent, and maybe just offer some encouragement to go talk to the law?

As I said before, there are probably things that the priest can do in a situation like this, where the confessor confesses to an ongoing crime, such as alerting the proper guardians of a threat to the child (or other victim) without being specific, or telling anyone where he got the information from. I don't know exactly what the limits are, because I am not an expert in church law. I do know that what he cannot do is tell people "Hey Bob Smith said he was molesting kids in confession" or the like.

But none of this matters to the likes of you, does it? You just want to hate the Catholic Church and feel superior to it so you'll side with the devil himself against it if you can score a point or two.

I don't understand people like you, that claim to be Christian but then revel in the turmoil and hope for the downfall of the largest denomination trying to bring people to God and Christ. I'm not Methodist, but I don't want to see Methodists fall into apostasy and schism - I want to see them healthy and righteous. Same for Lutherans, Baptists, Episcopalians and all of them. But people like you get off on every perceived weakness of Catholicism just as much as any purple-haired lesbian leftist.

[MrEdd]

The first responsibility of every adult in a pedophilia situation is to protect children.

I was clear, except to those who shirk that responsibility.
And nobody who would not shirk that responsibility when it suited them would pretend not to understand.

I also pointed out that when people who are supposed to represent God on this earth do not protect children from rape then those children internalize that that is who God is.

They believe that God didn’t care when they were being raped and even if he was there they didn’t matter...but the person who was raping them God does care about because that is which one his supposed Representatives reached out to.

There is nothing in that statement which is hard to understand, or confusing.

[fr_freak]

As I explained to someone else here, being forbidden from revealing the confession doesn’t necessarily mean the priest can’t do something to help the child, in this hypothetical scenario. He just can’t link whatever he does to the confessor. I don’t know the exact limits on his options because I am not an expert on Church law. But certainly, taking some action to protect the child if there is an ongoing crime would be possible. You and the other people here flipping out over this particular sacrament are leaping to unjustified conclusions based on your own prejudices.

[MrEdd]

Why no.
No, as a matter of fact contrary to your ignorant and unwarranted assertions I am not acting in any way on “assumptions” neither mine nor anyone elses.

I am acting on the real experiences of people I know.
People who were hurt as children, and the Church knew.

Some of whom, have had lifelong colon problems and rectal problems because it continued on for years and the cumulative effect produced lifelong medical problems.

Yes, when someone is as flippant as you reveal yourself to be then people who actually take this seriously are to quote you “flipping out.”

[grey_whiskers]

The Seal of Confession LONG predates the 1960s-and-later era fad of kiddie diddling.

[Veggie Todd]

... or coaches, Scout leaders, entertainment and media personalities. Oh, I could go on and on but I’d hate to ruin a perfectly good hackneyed anti-Catholic slam

True. All religions are full of bad apples. But catholics are the absolute worst so by ragging on them I get more bang for the buck. No pun intended. Or was it.

[fr_freak]

Try reading. It will help you have online conversations. I said that the rules regarding confessions don’t preclude priests from taking some action necessarily. That’s what this whole discussion is about. It is not about whether bad stuff ever happened, or if there are a-hole priests out there, or whatever. That is a separate discussion.

[Grey182]

If priest should be required to report on people, then so should your lawyer, and your shrink. Every falsely incriminating / damning thing you tell your lawyer should be revealed to the world, same with your wife. At least priests don’t know usually know who they talked to because of the Confessional box, a lawyer knows who you are and where you live. Everyone needs someone who can council them, a priest is your spiritual lawyer.

That said, I hate pedophiles as much as you. God will give what is coming to them in this life, Purgatory or Hell.

fyi in the middle ages Churches could grant sanctuary to allow the aggrieved time to calm down (so people don’t get lynched) and also to collect evidence and witnesses. Time in Sanctuary was a maximum of three weeks.

[trebb]

sick religion

The Catholics would be up in arms as a whole if a Priest dared turn in a child molester...which is very unlikely to ever happen...which religion is sicker in this respect?

[ronniesgal]

it was her own kid?! she’s an imbecile.

[SkyDancer]

Okay with that. Lawyers would be obligated to report a crime when one of their clients said they committed one; doctors also so in this case I feel you’re right. A crime was committed and should be reported.