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Personal ^ | 5/20/2020 | WaltStuart

[WaltStuart]

Not that interested in debating such things. Constructive dialogue is of interest.

[WaltStuart]

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[WaltStuart]

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[Robert DeLong]

Okay, you told us what you believe and that you think a number of current prophetic sources have said such things, too. But then you fail to offer up any scripture or prophecies that support what you believe.

Not saying you are incorrect, just that you have not provided anything to convince me that your beliefs may by valid.

[WaltStuart]

My assumption is that Holy Spirit within folks will confirm as He wills—when He has enough reign in an individual’s life.

I think I alluded to the Scripture about:

—God turning the hearts of the fathers to their children & vice versa.

—resurrections

—dreams & visions [verses about young men . . . old men . . . having such]

—signs in the heavens

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In terms of other modern prophetic sources—I haven’t kept track of them. Perry Stone often says such things, IIRC. There are some lesser known folks who have also said similar things. I don’t even recall their names.

I’m sharing my personal inner spirit impressions as they are. I’m not, per se, trying to convince anyone. I don’t think most people will be convinced until after the facts appear.

[WaltStuart]

And, one purpose in posting such is to see how many other people have had similar impressions in their spirits.

[WaltStuart]

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[stars & stripes forever]

Don’t know how GOD will do it, but something BIG is going to happen in the last days prior to the GREAT DAY of the LORD...

Joel 2:18-32
The Lord’s Promise of Restoration
18
Then the Lord will pity his people
and jealously guard the honor of his land.
19
The Lord will reply,
“Look! I am sending you grain and new wine and olive oil,
enough to satisfy your needs.
You will no longer be an object of mockery
among the surrounding nations.
20
I will drive away these armies from the north.
I will send them into the parched wastelands.
Those in the front will be driven into the Dead Sea,
and those at the rear into the Mediterranean.[a]
The stench of their rotting bodies will rise over the land.”
Surely the Lord has done great things!
21
Don’t be afraid, O land.
Be glad now and rejoice,
for the Lord has done great things.
22
Don’t be afraid, you animals of the field,
for the wilderness pastures will soon be green.
The trees will again be filled with fruit;
fig trees and grapevines will be loaded down once more.
23
Rejoice, you people of Jerusalem!
Rejoice in the Lord your God!
For the rain he sends demonstrates his faithfulness.
Once more the autumn rains will come,
as well as the rains of spring.
24
The threshing floors will again be piled high with grain,
and the presses will overflow with new wine and olive oil.
25
The Lord says, “I will give you back what you lost
to the swarming locusts, the hopping locusts,
the stripping locusts, and the cutting locusts.[b]
It was I who sent this great destroying army against you.
26
Once again you will have all the food you want,
and you will praise the Lord your God,
who does these miracles for you.
Never again will my people be disgraced.
27
Then you will know that I am among my people Israel,
that I am the Lord your God, and there is no other.
Never again will my people be disgraced.
The Lord’s Promise of His Spirit
28
[c]“Then, after doing all those things,
I will pour out my Spirit upon all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy.
Your old men will dream dreams,
and your young men will see visions.
29
In those days I will pour out my Spirit
even on servants—men and women alike.
30
And I will cause wonders in the heavens and on the earth—
blood and fire and columns of smoke.
31
The sun will become dark,
and the moon will turn blood red
before that great and terrible[d] day of the Lord arrives.
32
But everyone who calls on the name of the Lord
will be saved,
for some on Mount Zion in Jerusalem will escape,
just as the Lord has said.
These will be among the survivors
whom the Lord has called.

[WaltStuart]

AMEN! AMEN!

Thanks.

Love those Scriptures though I confess not being clear about their timing vis a vis other end times events.

[Robert DeLong]

But do you believe we are currently in the time of tribulation, or is it still to come? While some suggest a 7 year period, others believe it is only a 3 /12 year period. Either way, are we in those times yet in your opinion?

I personally think we may be very close to those times, but I believe it will get much worse before we actually enter into the tribulation period.

[stars & stripes forever]

It’s at the door. Israel has become a nation.

I agree that things are bound to get worse. Pray the Church will arise and souls will be saved.

[Robert DeLong]

From what I see churches have become part of the problem, at least among those occupying the positions of the hierarchy. No, I believe the seed of the Lord will be planted within individuals, regardless of their devotion or even involvement within organized religions. I’m not Catholic, but this Pope seems like a devout supporter of Satan rather than a devout supporter of the Lord.

[stars & stripes forever]

Those who truly believe in their hearts and confess JESUS CHRIST as LORD will be saved.

[Robert DeLong]

Well that describes me, I’m happy to say. 8>)

[WaltStuart]

I believe we are in the birth pangs period.

I believe that God set up Trump as Mark Taylor & Kim Clement predicted—to provide an intermission in the satanic rush of the USA & planet down the greased chute to hell, Tribulation & Armageddon.

I believe God is doing that for several purposes.

1. More people brought into the Kingdom.

2. Demonstrating life ruled by Godly values & power before God allows satan to provide the horrendous ultimate contrast to that during Tribulation.

3. Showing His might & majesty & thereby how puny’s satan’s power is.

I believe 3.5 years is a tough time & the last 3.5 years the toughest time just before Armageddon.

I don’t know if this intermission will be 8 years of this Trump plus 8 years of the 2nd Trump in the White House or what. I doubt it will last longer than 25 years, if that long.

Certainly satan wants to shove us all to excruciating hell on earth now.

But God is saying—NOPE—your timeline is not in charge, MINE is!

[WaltStuart]

From what I see churches have become part of the problem, at least among those occupying the positions of the hierarchy. No, I believe the seed of the Lord will be planted within individuals, regardless of their devotion or even involvement within organized religions. I’m not Catholic, but this Pope seems like a devout supporter of Satan rather than a devout supporter of the Lord.

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Agreed.

[stars & stripes forever]

Well that describes me, I’m happy to say. 8>)

Me too!

[Robert DeLong]

I believe that God set up Trump as Mark Taylor & Kim Clement predicted—to provide an intermission in the satanic rush of the USA & planet down the greased chute to hell, Tribulation & Armageddon.

But I have to ask, why would he do that? To what end does that serve? Why invoke an intermission?

[WaltStuart]

But I have to ask, why would he do that? To what end does that serve? Why invoke an intermission?

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I don’t pretend to know more than nano-sized particles worth about the mind of God.

My conjectures are:

1. to contribute in a big way toward the “end time gathering” of new believers.

2. to demonstrate to a sin-soaked world the starkly different world of life done well & right under the loving authority, power, justice of Almighty God Yehovah. In part, so that there is no excuse for the evildoers to claim “We didn’t know there was such a difference between following God & not following God.”

3. to clean up The Church Universal.

4. Because His Love & Mercy ARE major features of His character and He wants those DEMONSTRATED in an emphatic way in the end times era.

5. He loves to give good gifts to His children.

6. He loves to crush satan & satan’s ways with God’s Majesty and HIS ways.

7. He gave Israel many miracle demonstrations in Egypt and the wilderness for a list of reasons. He’s going to do similarly for Christian believers in this end times era for similar reasons—only more so.

8. Given the proper context and priorities, HIS MAJESTY WILL manifest because that is HIS NATURE.

[Giuseppe Nova]

What you said. I believe there are (many) people alive right now who will see Christ return. Things just "seem" to be pointing in that direction. Eschatology is a relatively new interest of mine, and I don't have a solid grasp of prophesied end times chronology yet. On the FR front there's a Freeper who has been periodically posting this relevant link (patburt.com) for years.

In response to your list of expectations, I will say that, in the past year or so, I've seen several references to a singular "End Times Elijah" character who some people are expecting on the scene to prepare the way for Christ's second advent; an end times answer to John the Baptist's role in Christ's first advent. John MacArthur's study notes for Malachi 4:5 make mention of this. The scripture says:

Behold, I am going to send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and terrible day of the Lord.

Macarthur's notes read (in part):

"Most likely, this will be an Elijah-like person, as John the Baptist was Elijah-like...In that day, his task will be to preach reconciliation to God so that souls can believe and be spared God's curse. He will be effective. (v6)"

This guy has an entire youtube channel dedicated largely to the study of this potential figure. The contributor has gotten off track because of COVID recently. I can recommend his Elijah vids, however.

Anyway, we shall see what we shall see.