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Making Worthless Things Valuable
GracetoYou.org ^ | 1993 | John MacArthur, Grace Community Church

Posted on 05/31/2020 3:18:00 AM PDT by metmom

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To: PeterPrinciple

1. “All have sinned and fall short of the Glory of God.”

2. Hendrix was going for the shock value. Same as the musician in the story by smashing the $20 fiddle. Pete Townsend actually already did something similar, so it wasn’t even original with Jimi.

3. God is no respecter of persons. In His eyes (and ears) the fiddles were equal. Substitute “Poor Man” and “Rich Man” for “$20 Violin” and “$20,000 Violin” and you will see why this story bothered me. Except, when it comes to actual musical instruments, there IS a difference.

If the musician in the story represents God, why did He destroy one violin because of it’s intrinsic non-value, and extol the other because of its monetary value when He is capable of performing magnificent music on both?

Could this be analogous to the Potter making some vessels to be used for fine wines and others to be chamber pots?

I’ll bet J.MacA didn’t expect his little story to cause such controversy. LOL!

I probably read a lot into the story because I am a musician and have had lots of experience with musical instruments. There have been instances where a person is so talented that they can make anything sound good, but these are few and far between. If anything, the story demonstrates the Incredible Grace of God.

John MacArthur isn’t a Lutheran, and sure ain’t a LUTHIER either!

I am not a Lutheran either, but I am an amateur LUTHIER. (and a terrible punster!)

Peace, Brother.


21 posted on 05/31/2020 9:55:38 AM PDT by left that other site (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all. (Isaiah 7:9))
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To: PeterPrinciple

I guess that makes me a Theologian then.:-)

Or maybe a “Theophilus”(One who loves God) only with a feminine Greek ending.


22 posted on 05/31/2020 9:59:40 AM PDT by left that other site (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all. (Isaiah 7:9))
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To: MayflowerMadam
"Right. That one always torked me off. I saw an interview with Rev. Dorsey’s wife a long time ago. Impressive man."

Indeed. I remember that interview. I believe it was in a PBS Documentary about Black Gospel Music, but I can't remember the title. I'll have to look it up.

So. You got those emails too, huh?
23 posted on 05/31/2020 10:02:13 AM PDT by left that other site (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all. (Isaiah 7:9))
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To: MayflowerMadam

Aha! Found it! :-)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086245/


24 posted on 05/31/2020 10:38:37 AM PDT by left that other site (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all. (Isaiah 7:9))
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To: metmom

LOL!





25 posted on 05/31/2020 10:45:35 AM PDT by left that other site (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all. (Isaiah 7:9))
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To: left that other site

Yes. That’s the one I saw. (LOVE gospel music — the older stuff.)


26 posted on 05/31/2020 11:56:44 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Nothing happens to a Christian that God does not allow to happen.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Amazing that it was on PBS!

I think it is lovely that you and I share this memory! :-)


27 posted on 05/31/2020 12:01:43 PM PDT by left that other site (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all. (Isaiah 7:9))
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To: metmom; Maudeen; stars & stripes forever
The story is told of a great concert violinist who wanted to prove a point...

1 Samuel 16

17 And Saul said unto his servants, Provide me now a man that can play well, and bring him to me.
18 Then answered one of the servants, and said, Behold, I have seen a son of Jesse the Bethlehemite, that is cunning in playing, and a mighty valiant man, and a man of war, and prudent in matters, and a comely person, and the LORD is with him.

David's instrument is a kinor, translated as a harp or a lyre. David is of course world-famous for his harp and his masterful skills with his hand, and the Psalms that he composed for his harp. Who thinks of David without thinking of his Psalms and his harp. It's as if he never left home without his harp.

David was a literal Renaissance man, noteworthy for his hands.

No one really knows, however, what the instrument was exactly.

In modern Hebrew, though, a "kinor" is a violin or a fiddle. A harp is a nevel, which in Biblical Hebrew is translated as psaltery, viol, or other misc. instrument. In Scripture, the kinor and nevel appear often together.

Israel: David's harp is called Kinor David -- it's simply the same Hebrew word/name as the instrument he played. In English, the harp of David, not the violin or fiddle.

1 Samuel 16:23 And it came to pass, when the evil spirit from God was upon Saul, that David took an harp, and played with his hand: so Saul was refreshed, and was well, and the evil spirit departed from him.

Words, like the violins in this concert-story-of-dubious-provenance, are often described in terms of monetary value - cheap words or big, expensive words. Multiple connotations.

Regardless of their perceived value - a $20 harlot or $20,000 escort - all of the English words are gathered together in one famous storehouse called the Oxford English Dictionary, published by Oxford University Press, a department of the University of Oxford.

The university became involved in the print trade around 1480, and grew into a major printer of Bibles, prayer books, and scholarly works.[5] OUP took on the project that became the Oxford English Dictionary in the late 19th century, and expanded to meet the ever-rising costs of the work.

For anyone still reading and interested in the point that is found at Oxford University,

Few people could tell the difference between the two violins. His point was obvious: it isn't the violin that makes the music; it's the violinist.

In the world of living parables, where paradoxically the parable is the literal meaning, there is no difference between the violinist and his violin. Or between David and his kinor, as it were. All are one in Christ Jesus:

The Ashmolean Museum of Art and Archaeology [2] on Beaumont Street, Oxford, England, is the world's first university museum.[3] Its first building was erected in 1678–1683 to house the cabinet of curiosities that Elias Ashmole gave to the University of Oxford in 1677.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashmolean_Museum

Elias came first because for one thing, the museum "storehouse" named after him started with and was built for his curiosity collection. For those curious about the valuable treasures on display at Elias' house:

Messiah Stradivarius

The Messiah - Salabue Stradivarius of 1716 is a violin made by the Italian luthier Antonio Stradivari of Cremona. It is considered to be the only Stradivarius in existence in as new state.[1] It is in the collection of the Ashmolean Museum in Oxford, England.

The violin, known as the Messiah (Messie in French), remained in Stradivari's workshop until his death in 1737. It was then sold by his son Paolo to Count Cozio di Salabue in 1775, and for a time, the violin bore the name Salabue. The instrument was then purchased by Luigi Tarisio in 1827. Upon Tarisio’s death, in 1854, the French luthier Jean Baptiste Vuillaume of Paris purchased The Messiah along with Tarisio's entire collection. "One day Tarisio was discoursing with Vuillaume on the merits of this unknown and marvelous instrument, when the violinist Jean-Delphin Alard, Vuillaume's son-in-law, exclaimed: 'Really, Mister Tarisio, your violin is like the Messiah of the Jews: one always expects him but he never appears' ('Vraiment, Monsieur Tarisio, votre violon est comme le Messie des Juifs: on l'attend toujours, mais il ne paraît jamais' [2]). Thus the violin was baptized with the name by which it is still known."[3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messiah_Stradivarius

The world's most valuable violin? The Messiah Stradivarius

Hebrew: "Stradovarius ha-Mashiach - kinor" [סטרדווריוס המשיח - כינור ]

Total round up of all the little points:

Matthew 5
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

The jot is the letter yud, the smallest of them all.

Points, considered within the framework of Euclidean geometry, are one of the most fundamental objects. Euclid originally defined the point as "that which has no part". In two-dimensional Euclidean space, a point is represented by an ordered pair (x,y) of numbers, where the first number conventionally represents the horizontal and is often denoted by x, and the second number conventionally represents the vertical and is often denoted by y.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_(geometry)

In Scripture, the kinor and nevel appear often together.

As spelled in the Bible (without the yud), kinor [כנור] = 276. nevel [נבל ] = 82.

The sum = 358 = Messiah [Mashiach, משיח].

Pintele Yid: essential Jewishness. The dot that is the smallest letter, the yud.

The yud has a numeric value of 10, but when spelled out by name, it adds up to 20 [יוד].

"Ladies and gentlemen, to put you at ease, the violin that was just destroyed was a $20 violin. The master will now return to play the remainder of his concert on the $20,000 instrument."

Inflation:

Estimated Value: 20.000.000$

https://www.cmuse.org/12-most-expensive-violins/

Everybody gets the same 24 hours in a day. Spend wisely before time's up. Who's got any time to play and fiddle around?!!! :)

28 posted on 05/31/2020 8:26:36 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The pun is mightier than the s-word. Goy to the World!)
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To: Ezekiel

Good one!


29 posted on 05/31/2020 8:45:33 PM PDT by Maudeen (The Rapture . . . Separation of Church and State)
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To: Maudeen
Using a theological tale [of email-level authenticity] about a $20 violin, in order to produce a literal $20,000,000 Stradivarius, the only one in a "new" state...

That *is* the title of the thread. :)

With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

Have a great day!

30 posted on 06/01/2020 9:29:17 AM PDT by Ezekiel (The pun is mightier than the s-word. Goy to the World!)
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