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[Catholic Caucus] Communion Order Shocks Argentine Faithful
Church Militant ^ | July 3, 2020 | Martin M. Barillas

Posted on 07/03/2020 7:53:14 PM PDT by ebb tide

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To: cloudmountain

Having considered all of the information you’ve laid out, cloudmontain, why, SPECIFICALLY, do YOU THINK we as Catholics fast pre-Communion?


21 posted on 07/06/2020 5:59:35 PM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: one guy in new jersey

This song provides an answer, and though it seems tongue in cheek, it is in the end most valuable upon reflection

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRdfX7ut8gw

There are deeper answers, but in many ways this is often a good one.


22 posted on 07/06/2020 6:22:21 PM PDT by Hieronymus (“I shall drink to the Pope, if you please, still, to conscience first, and to the Pope afterwards.Â)
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To: ebb tide

Get a life.
Why aren’t you demanding that people must kneel at a communion rail too?

You are worse than a Pharasee


23 posted on 07/06/2020 7:01:24 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: one guy in new jersey
Having considered all of the information you’ve laid out, cloudmountain, why, SPECIFICALLY, do YOU THINK we as Catholics fast pre-Communion?

I go along with the flow of the Church since the Church has been doing this for some 2,000 years. It doesn't matter to me which it is.
There USED to be Holy Communion only ONCE a year.
It USED to be fasting for THREE hours.
Someday, the fasting may INCREASE or DECREASE. The Living Magisterium has the authority to make the changes.

WHY are you so interested in people's opinions about this ONE item? Why does it matter to you so much? You remind me of another poster who is OBSESSED about something. Lol. I've even forgotten why he had a bug up his butt. :o)

Rules, laws and customs come and go. If you can't learn to deal with them sanely then your life will have many bumps.

PAX TIBI.

24 posted on 07/06/2020 7:01:52 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: oldbill

I’m not demanding anybody to kneel or receive in the paw.

But I am questioning why priests and bishops are violating my right, per canon law, to receive Holy Communion on the tongue.

And what in the heck is “Pharasse”?


25 posted on 07/06/2020 7:06:42 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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The Living Magisterium has the authority to make the changes.

Such modernism! Let's just ignore the "past" magisterium and just "go with the flow" as you describe it.

That is not what the "Church has been doing for some 2,000 years", it's only what the modernists have been doing for the past 55 years. Yet some are too foolish to see it.

26 posted on 07/06/2020 7:15:49 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: cloudmountain

I want to know if you are in any way curious about the rationale for the rule in the first place, or if you are willing to surmise why the rule exists.


27 posted on 07/06/2020 7:23:42 PM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: Hieronymus

Awesome. Thx.


28 posted on 07/06/2020 7:34:18 PM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: cloudmountain
Here's a prime example of your "Living Magisterium":

The Pope’s Endorsement of Argentina’s Amoris Guidelines: What It Means

On the Pope’s personal instruction, the 2016 Buenos Aires bishops’ guidelines on Chapter 8 of his post-synodal apostolic exhortation, Amoris Laetitia, appeared last week in the Holy See’s journal of juridical record, the Acta Apostolicae Sedis (AAS). The interpretation permits the sacrament of reconciliation and Holy Communion in some cases for remarried divorcees who, for example, try to live lives of sexual abstinence but must continue to live together for the sake of raising their children.

Will you "go with the flow"?

Or will you resist "the flow" as Cardinal Mueller is:

But Cardinal Müller, the prefect emeritus of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, has expressed some reservations, telling the Register Dec. 6 that he finds it “disturbing” the Holy Father would declare an interpretation of a group of bishops as “almost infallible” teaching.

29 posted on 07/06/2020 7:51:43 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Wow. Great info, ET.


30 posted on 07/06/2020 7:51:54 PM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: one guy in new jersey; oldbill; cloudmountain
Did you note:

FINAL NOTE

The only ones to communicate always standing and with their hands outstretched were from the beginning the Arians, who obstinately denied the Divinity of Christ and who could not see in the Eucharist any more than a simple symbol of "union," which can be taken and handled at will. Millions of present day Catholics including many prelates and priests, have been practically converted to Arianism, a great heresy lasting from the fourth to the seventh century.

31 posted on 07/06/2020 8:01:31 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

“Did you note:

FINAL NOTE

The only ones to communicate always standing and with their hands outstretched were from the beginning the Arians, who obstinately denied the Divinity of Christ and who could not see in the Eucharist any more than a simple symbol of “union,” which can be taken and handled at will. Millions of present day Catholics including many prelates and priests, have been practically converted to Arianism, a great heresy lasting from the fourth to the seventh century.”

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I did. Who wants to be associated in any way with that historic freakshow, Arianism?


32 posted on 07/06/2020 8:50:18 PM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: one guy in new jersey
I want to know if you are in any way curious about the rationale for the rule in the first place, or if you are willing to surmise why the rule exists.

Since GOD gave us the Ten Commandments, NOT the ten suggestions, I KNOW why God gave them to us. It is because that is the way HE wants us to live. He loves us, wants us to be with Him...so we do what He wants.

Since our earthly laws REFLECT those COMMANDMENTS I believe that the rationale is that they are for our safety, protection and abilities to survive and thrive.

There would be no other sane rationale for the rules. When you finally pass away see if you can get God to explain it to you.
I get it but you don't seem to.

33 posted on 07/06/2020 9:10:09 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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Cloudmountain, I wonder about you. I’m glad you are Catholic but I think you may be too quick to find fault. You definitely appear to be engaging in rash judgment when it comes to me. You know that’s not good, right?


34 posted on 07/06/2020 9:36:54 PM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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Cloudmountain, I wonder about you. I’m glad you are Catholic but I think you may be too quick to find fault. You definitely appear to be engaging in rash judgment when it comes to me. You know that’s not good, right?

Lol. And here you are, right on the tail of finding fault with ME telling me MY faults.

Thanks for making me chuckle

35 posted on 07/07/2020 7:36:33 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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Lay Catholics of all ages are obliged to continue to grow in knowledge of the faith. I have the sense that I can help you with that in at least some small way. A sharp elbow now and then I can contend with, but I’ll typically change course and move on if I find myself running up against a hard heart. If the shoe fits, wear it. If it doesn’t, by all means, don’t. Peace be to you.


36 posted on 07/07/2020 11:52:37 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: one guy in new jersey
Lay Catholics of all ages are obliged to continue to grow in knowledge of the faith. I have the sense that I can help you with that in at least some small way. A sharp elbow now and then I can contend with, but I’ll typically change course and move on if I find myself running up against a hard heart. If the shoe fits, wear it. If it doesn’t, by all means, don’t. Peace be to you.

Lol. You have "the sense" that you can help me?
Hahahahaha.
Oh, my, that was a good one. Thanks for the laugh.

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PAX TECUM EST!

37 posted on 07/07/2020 3:53:12 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

You realize, I trust, that by choosing to laugh last, you’ve left me the last substantive word.


38 posted on 07/08/2020 10:10:49 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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