Posted on 11/20/2020 7:03:19 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Wonderful for Utah! Now please be charitable and take Romney back!!!
Okay, I’ll go here. Lots of churches do lots of good things. But they are also social clubs for a lot of communities that would be taxed where they not under religious cover. Tithing to the Mormon church is not necessarily predominantly “charitable”.
Cult!
In before the ususal @ssholes.
Great.
Note that members of mormonism fill out a report each year to determine their worthiness.
Don’t meet the criteria, no temple recommend. No temple recommend, no eternity in the presence of God, no future godhood for themselves...
I was gonna say that Utah can’t be the most charitable since they voted Romney in. No charity there at all!!
Good point. If they are counting donations to your church as a charitable contribution, then that could change things. The reason I think that, is because I’ve been involved with a few local small churches. And in those churches, the vast majority of member donations went to pay the pastor’s salary, and upkeep of the church itself. Very little got spent on what we might think of as charity work.
Then again, I know someone could mention charities, in which the bulk of the expenditures of the charity are for salaries and upkeep of the organization, as opposed to being spent to deliver charitable aid to people. But perhaps that’s a subject for a separate thread.
Wow! Good point
Yes. My father used to curse that people deserve the kind of politicians they vote for. Utah gets Romney. So they must deserve him. So be it. But the problem is that his big idiot mouth and his voting in the US senate curses the all the rest of Americans, too.
Yep—all that is often the case.
Personally, I would tax all organizations alike.
I wonder if Romney was the beneficiary of some crooked Dominion ballot counting. Hence, all his protesting DJT at every turn.
I'd take my vote back from 2012 if I could.
When I lived in that area, Mormons were REQUIRED to give 10% of their income to the Mormon Church. To be in good standing(Temple Worthy) you had to bring in your tax forms as proof.
Required giving is not volunteer giving.
I call BS. Mississippi has historically been one of the most charitable states and now is in the bottom five?
This reminds me of an old joke in Mark Twain’s Library of Wit and Humor about a black man who no longer went to church.
Whey asked why he no longer went to the African Episcopal Methodist Church he said...
“I and my family went there, and I gave lots of money to the church, and the members called me ‘Brother Brown’”.
“Then my wife got sick and I had to give less as the medicine cost so much, and the members called me ‘Mister Brown’”.
“Then my wife died, and my children got sick so I could not give any money to the church. The members then said ‘There’s that old N——a Brown!” so I quit them”
Hey if you don’t like it take it up with Samuel Langhorne Clemens.
Utah is the closest red state to me unless Arizona is still considered red. Nonetheless, I would never live anywhere in Utah—and that’s not because of the cold weather or the lack of Italian restaurants.
So, according to you, voluntarily giving to a church is not “charity”?
Our options were Romney and Obama. Either way we lost.
AMPU, it’s sad to see you’re still a bigot until now against us Latter-day Saints.
As a Latter-day Saint, I voluntarily give 10% of my income to my church because I believe what God commanded in Malachi 3:8-11. And yes, during our annual tithing settlement with our pastor (bishop), we are asked whether we’re full tithe payers. If not, then we cannot get a temple recommend.
However, you are wrong in claiming not having a temple recommend means we cannot be in the presence of God or we cannot get exalted as the glorified Children of God.
We do CHARITY work for the dead in the temple in all visits after the first one. Only the first time we go do the ordinances apply to us. Only those ordinances matter to us. All subsequent visits are to help those who cannot help themselves in fulfilling Christ’s condition that only those who are born of water and of the spirit may enter the kingdom of God.
So, a Latter-day Saint only needs to go to the temple once to qualify for exaltation and never set foot in the temple for the rest of his life. However, that raises another issue of whether that person developed the traits Christ expects of his true followers - the character of being charitable - and its greatest expression is when someone helps those who cannot help themselves.
Get your facts right before misrepresenting my church. It’s unbecoming.
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