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Magnetic Pole Reversal Comeback Expected: Was this Prophesied by Malachi?
israel365news.com ^ | 3/14/21 | Adam Eliyahu Berkowitz

Posted on 03/16/2021 6:36:07 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal

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To: Roman_War_Criminal

As a sailor who dabbles in traditional coastal navigation techniques up here in Southeast Alaska, I can tell you that the magnetic pole shift is very noticeable. I have a 100 year old book of navigation notes - compass bearings, point-to-point for the inside passage from Seattle to Scagway. Ten years ago it was still useful. Not any more.


41 posted on 03/16/2021 11:00:29 AM PDT by Chuckster (Friends don't let friends eat farmed fish)
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To: null and void

null and void wrote: “If your first sentence is true, it negates your second one...”
True, but I never claimed Malachi knew enough about magnetic poles to prophecy about them?


42 posted on 03/16/2021 11:14:55 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

Fair point!


43 posted on 03/16/2021 11:20:27 AM PDT by null and void (The media decides what news you can see and NOT SEE. But don't you dare call 'em Not-Sees)
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To: null and void
Do you have more than 3 days food in your pantry, if not, why not?

Hmmm, three days plus a couple of years; that should do it.

44 posted on 03/16/2021 11:39:43 AM PDT by Oorang (Politicians:-a feeble band of lowly reptiles who shun the light and who lurk in their own dens. )
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To: Oorang

If it doesn’t we’ve got problems!


45 posted on 03/16/2021 12:09:11 PM PDT by null and void (The media decides what news you can see and NOT SEE. But don't you dare call 'em Not-Sees)
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To: Chuckster

Thank you for sharing that.

Some of this stuff sounds like conspiracy to most.

You’re living a dream of mine sailing around Alaska.

Always wanted to go salmon shark fishing around there.


46 posted on 03/17/2021 6:27:05 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: Cronos
However, this is ‘pure fantasy’.

2 Peter 3:7
 And by that same word, the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men. 8 Beloved, do not let this one thing escape your notice: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.

Revelation 21:1 ESV
"For behold, the day is coming, burning like an oven, when all the arrogant and all evildoers will be stubble. The day that is coming shall set them ablaze, says the Lord of hosts, so that it will leave them neither root nor branch.

2 Peter 3:7  King James Version (KJV)
"But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men."

47 posted on 03/21/2021 7:25:16 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Firstly - let's revisit what I posted about the Rapture fantasy being poor fantasy.

For the rapturists, a magnetic pole reversal means the end of the world. When north turns to south, it may not just be compasses that get turned on their heads.

Continents may jolt back and forth, causing huge land damage through earthquakes and tsunamis, climate change may be accelerated and huge numbers of humans and animals would meet their maker.

Then for 2 Pet 3:7 although this is the only New Testament passage about a final conflagration, the idea was common in apocalyptic and Greco-Roman thought. This has NOTHING to do with magnetic poles flipping. No fire

Next, Apoc 21:1 talks of the passing away of Old Jerusalem of 69 AD and the destruction of the 2nd temple.

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More IMPORTANTLY - MALACHI talks of the prophet Elijah coming Mal 2:3 before the burning like an oven

and here is the burning like an oven - the destruction of Jerusalem in 69 ad


48 posted on 03/22/2021 12:17:20 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos
Firstly - let's revisit what I posted...

Yup; you posted it all right.

But you know; as a RAPTURIST (nice word - almost as good as RACIST) myself; I have NEVER heard anything about pole reversal or continent shaking!


You really should stick to what the Scriptures, that Rome gave to me, say:

Matthew 24:40
"Then there shall be two men in the field; one will be taken, and one will be left.
 
Luke 17:34
I say unto you, In that night there shall be two men on one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
 
1 Thessalonians 4:13-18
13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

49 posted on 03/22/2021 4:28:36 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cronos
More IMPORTANTLY - MALACHI talks of the prophet Elijah coming Mal 2:3 before the burning like an oven

Please understand Jesus' words about Elijah, as Rome has recorded them:

 Matthew 17:9-13
 
 9  And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead.
10 And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come?
11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.
12 But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.
13 Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.

50 posted on 03/22/2021 4:35:40 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
Saul Kullook, a scientist with many patents 
 
 
https://independent.academia.edu/SaulKullok
 
http://www.cogwriter.com/news/prophecy/another-jewish-scientist-admits-6000-years-is-up-sooner-than-most-jews-believe/
 
 

51 posted on 03/22/2021 4:50:58 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
"has come already" ... "John the Baptist"

And then you have For behold, the day is coming, burning like an oven, when all the arrogant and all evildoers will be stubble. The day that is coming shall set them ablaze, says the Lord of hosts, so that it will leave them neither root nor branch. -- the destruction of the temple, down to its foundations, leaving only the western foundation wall. That happeneD in 70 AD

52 posted on 03/22/2021 5:27:22 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Elsie
Elsie But you know; as a RAPTURIST (nice word - almost as good as RACIST) myself; I have NEVER heard anything about pole reversal or continent shaking!

Perhaps you missed the title of this article on which you are commenting Magnetic Pole Reversal Comeback Expected: Was this Prophesied by Malachi?

53 posted on 03/22/2021 5:28:43 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Elsie
As 1 Thessalonians 4 says
Finally then, brethren, we request and exhort you in the Lord Jesus, that as you received from us instruction as to how you ought to [a]walk and please God (just as you actually do [b]walk), that you excel still more. 2 For you know what commandments we gave you [c]by the authority of the Lord Jesus. 3 For this is the will of God, your sanctification; that is, that you abstain from [d]sexual immorality; 4 that each of you know how to [e]possess his own [f]vessel in sanctification and honor, 5 not in [g]lustful passion, like the Gentiles who do not know God; 6 and that no man transgress and defraud his brother in the matter because the Lord is the avenger in all these things, just as we also told you before and solemnly warned you. 7 For God has not called us for the purpose of impurity, but [h]in sanctification. 8 So, he who rejects this is not rejecting man but the God who gives His Holy Spirit to you.

9 Now as to the love of the brethren, you have no need for anyone to write to you, for you yourselves are taught by God to love one another; 10 for indeed you do practice it toward all the brethren who are in all Macedonia. But we urge you, brethren, to excel still more, 11 and to make it your ambition to lead a quiet life and attend to your own business and work with your hands, just as we commanded you, 12 so that you will [i]behave properly toward outsiders and [j]not be in any need.

13 But we do not want you to be uninformed, brethren, about those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve as do the rest who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep [k]in Jesus. 15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive [l]and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a [m]shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive [n]and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.
This very clearly REFUTES the fake 19th century secrete pre-trib rapture philosophy

What does this actually teach?

St. Paul wrote to the Thessalnian Christians because they were worried about those who died before Christ's return. Many in the ancient world believed that a person simply ceased to exist upon death. These was a rumor in Thessalonica at the time Paul wrote the letter that the dead Christians had lost out on any chance of a physical resurrection. St.Paul assures them that it was not so. In fact, "the dead in Christ will rise first" to meet Christ

The Thessalonians knew their dead would rise again but apparently feared that they would not find them in Christ’s retinue at the time of his glorious return. St. Paul assures them that their dead will indeed be there; “slept through Jesus,” a unique phrase, equivalent to “the dead who are in Christ” of 15, cf. Rom 14:7-8. “In (the) word of the Lord”

Paul The Thessalonians knew their dead would rise again but apparently feared that they would not find them in Christ’s retinue at the time of his glorious return. St. Paul assures them that their dead will indeed be there; “slept through Jesus,” a unique phrase, equivalent to “the dead who are in Christ” of 15, cf. Rom 14:7-8. “In (the) word of the Lord”

As it is clear from his answer to their second question (5:1-12) that neither he nor anyone else knows the time of the Second Coming, there can be no question here of his either teaching or hinting at the imminence of the Parousia, as many moderns have thought. His utilization of Matthew 24 is conclusive of his conformity with Christ’s own teaching on the Parousia,Rapturists make the mistake of thinking "meet the Lord in the air" is about Christ not actually touching the earth.

The word St. Paul uses for meeting the Lord "in the air" is aer the Greek word for atmosphere

This SAME word is used in Ephesians 2:2

And you [a]were dead [b]in your trespasses and sins, 2 in which you formerly walked according to the [c]course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience.
yet no one would claim that, because of this word, Satan wouldn't influence people on the earth

A consistent rapturist reading of this wod here would mean that only airplane passengers are influenced by Satan's power

NO, when Christ returns to the earth's atmosphere, He has returned to earth

Rapturists trying to point to the "coming in the clouds" -- but this ignores the symbol of divinity in the clouds

The Bible uses three Greek words interchangeably

  1. parousia - coming
  2. epiphaneia appearing
  3. apokalupsis revelation

Rapturists think that there is a different usage for each, but that is false - parousia is not used just for some fake "rapture" and the others for the 2nd coming

Paul doesn't mention this 19th century rapture idea as occuring before the appearance of the antichrist and before the second coming is simple: it never entered into his mind that anyone would believe Christ would rapture His Church before the final Eschaton

In the apocalypse, that is referred to as the battle with Gog and Magog, Christians will participate in that confrontation because there will be no secret rapture before it. Our comfort rests in Him who will emerge from that confrontation as the Victor.

THAT is the reassurance Paul offers, not the promise of an escape from the great Tribulation.

54 posted on 03/22/2021 5:30:12 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos
THAT is the reassurance Paul offers, not the promise of an escape from the great Tribulation.

Nice try at attempting to get the "Look!! A squirrel!" to stick to the wall, tribulation was not mentioned by me.

Next thing ya know you'll be explaining how it's ok for Catholics to call any man Father.

55 posted on 03/22/2021 5:46:11 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cronos
This very clearly REFUTES the fake 19th century secrete pre-trib rapture philosophy

Now you want to narrow the goalposts?

56 posted on 03/22/2021 5:47:51 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cronos
Luke 17:34 is NOT a statement that encourages Homos!
57 posted on 03/22/2021 5:50:03 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Let’s look at Matthew 24 “ 40 [x]Two men will be out in the field; one will be taken, and one will be left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken, and one will be left.”

What happens in the very next chapter Matthew 25?

The Parable of the Ten Virgins

What happens? 5 are prepared, the other 5 are not and they are LEFT OUT.

Jesus meant “left OUT of the eternal kingdom”, not “left BEHIND at the secret rapture”. Jesus is talking about the taking of His followers - whether Jew or Gentile in to the eternal kingdom.


58 posted on 03/22/2021 6:01:35 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Elsie

With due respect, my point has always been that the secret pre-tribulation rapture is not what Jesus spoke about. Jesus tells us we will suffer for Him, not we will be magically wafted away


59 posted on 03/22/2021 6:02:46 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos
What happens in the very next chapter Matthew 25?

Who cares?

What about the stuff I posted?

'Taken' is nothing like 'left out'.

Mt 25 is a parable, Mt 24 is not.

60 posted on 03/22/2021 5:58:43 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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