Joan of Arc's Testimony of Her Voices and Her Mission

Gloria Romanorum ^ | May 30, 2020 | Florentius

[Antoninus]

On the anniversary of the execution of St. Joan of Arc, May 30, AD 1431.

[Antoninus]

Catholic ping!

[steve86]

BFL

[353FMG]

The Saint who was betrayed by the people she tried to save.

[ebb tide]

Ping

[Auntie Mame]

The Saint who was betrayed by the people she tried to save.

Sounds familiar.

[Antoninus]

Sounds familiar.

Seriously. That's why she's a saint. She was Christ-like in that way.

[animal172]

No disrespect intended, but when I was growing up in Vitry le Francois in France there was a statue of her in the city center roundabout riding a horse. The GI’s would get very drunk and would be found riding on the horse. They called her Joanie on the Pony. As an eight year old GI brat it bothered me then and to this day it still does.

[Captain Walker]

I'm reading Mark Twain's Joan of Arc now.

It took him twelve years to write. Twain wasn't Catholic, but I can easily believe that this book was divinely-inspired.

[Antoninus]

It took him twelve years to write. Twain wasn't Catholic, but I can easily believe that this book was divinely-inspired.

Not only wasn't Twain Catholic, he was pretty virulently anti-Catholic as anyone who reads Connecticut Yankee will readily discern. Later in life, however, he seems to have had a change of heart. His Personal Recollections of Saint Joan of Arc is perhaps his best work.

[Antoninus]

Versions of that statue are displayed all over the world, including in Philadelphia and New Orleans. The NOLA version was recently vandalized by "the usual suspects." New Orleans' Joan of Arc Statue Vandalized With 'Take It Down'

[ifinnegan]

What is Joan of Arc to us, Americans, other than an entertainment?

[Captain Walker]

Is that the same as Joan of Arc? (Twain himself described Joan of Arc as his best book.)

"I like Joan of Arc best of all my books; and it is the best; I know it perfectly well. And besides, it furnished me seven times the pleasure afforded me by any of the others; twelve years of preparation, and two years of writing. The others needed no preparation and got none." --Mark Twain www.goodreads.com

When I began the book I wasn't sure if Twain was Catholic or not; this really isn't a story a non-Catholic would tell. (A writer's faith (or lack of it) means nothing of course; Robert Bolt, who put together the screenplay for A Man For All Seasons, was an atheist).

I knew Twain could not have been Catholic when I came to his description of a pennant Joan had made; he referred to it as a picture of "an angel giving Mary a lily". (A Catholic would have immediately recognized this as the Annunciation. Obviously, Gabriel didn't give the lily to Mary; he carried it with him as a messenger.)

[Captain Walker]

Read up on her.

Joan of Arc was sent in response to the prayers of the people of France; there was a dispute about who the actual leader of the country was, and she approached Charles VII to assure him that not only was he the true leader of France, with Heaven's help, she was going to put him on the throne. Heaven intervened in the affairs of a nation and secured the true leader of the country in his office.

The parallel here is obvious to anyone who "has ears to hear".

[grey_whiskers]

That weirds me out almost as much as finding that Twain was good friends with Nicola Tesla.

I shall have to seek out an unabridged paper copy of the book.

Thank you.

[Falconspeed]

Thank you. Joan of Arc, pray for us. She was a saint who proved to be a strategic master and a poor soul. Her suffering was genuine. The locals tried to put out the fire once they realized their mistake. They burned a saint! 1947 CBS show “You were there:”
https://youtu.be/-Ko5zwTYOJw

UC Berkeley has a “Mark Twain Project,” because UCB received most of Twain’s papers and files after his death in 1910. UCB was founded in 1867. I learned from my visits to the UCB’s Twain Project that everyone finds something interesting about Mark Twain.

[apocalypto]

Interesting.

[dsc]

It is said that he started writing it with the intent to debunk the story, but finished converted to belief in it.

[Antoninus]

What is Joan of Arc to us, Americans, other than an entertainment?

An inspiration. A role-model. Someone with child-like faith to be emulated.

[NetAddicted]

Yesterday, I watched the end of a movie about St Joan of Arc, with Milla Jovovich. C’est interresante. Interesting parts with Dustin Hoffman appearing to her, making her look honestly at herself. That’s what I thought was happening, anyway.