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Vatican Rejects Healing for Homosexuality
Church Militant ^ | 7/22/21 | Jules Gomes

Posted on 07/22/2021 6:12:15 PM PDT by marshmallow

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To: marshmallow

Let’s just say it: Bergoglio the Usurper is a queer.

Once you admit this then all of this heretic’s actions and words make perfect sense.


21 posted on 07/22/2021 7:46:26 PM PDT by MercyFlush ( According to the New York Times "Freedom" is an anti-government slogan. )
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To: metmom

Such a good point. And it’s utter nonsense that for all of these guys it is innate orientation. What about the phenomenon of prison homosexuals, i.e., men who only start engaging in homosexual behavior after being incarcerated? That ain’t in-born “orientation.” If it were, it wouldn’t take a prison state to initiate that behavior.

The Vatican under Bergoglio is utterly corrupt, a den of vice and heresy the likes of which hasn’t been seen in centuries, if ever.


22 posted on 07/22/2021 7:50:18 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: marshmallow

I wonder if the CC or any congregation at the Vatican will interfere with rep. therapy in the USA? There’s a movement to ban it, but I don’t think it’s illegal everywhere.


23 posted on 07/22/2021 7:56:52 PM PDT by Marchmain (TLM refugee)
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To: Fred Hayek

Ya’ got an inkling that the Papa doesn’t believe Gods word is really true?


24 posted on 07/22/2021 8:02:48 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: Saint Athanasius

ping


25 posted on 07/22/2021 8:10:43 PM PDT by rhinohunter
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To: dsc

You are correct.


26 posted on 07/22/2021 8:28:46 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods ( comment might be sarcasm, or not. It depends. Often I'm not sure either.)
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To: Organic Panic

No he won’t.


27 posted on 07/22/2021 9:45:57 PM PDT by karnage
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To: marshmallow

As far as I know, a reliable therapy for even most homosexual behaviors has not been established. Like many in the psych professions therapists have a primary theory about what causes homosexuality and what helps cure it. They then have a tendency to apply that theory to every patient. Of course it is not effective because causation is multi faceted.

The best intended patient often feels like a failure when he/she does not find healing. But often it is not the patient’s fault, but the therapy’s deficiencies.

The remedy is better understanding of homosexual issues and application of newer understandings of the the physiology of sexual behavior, the bodily reactions and how to extinguish the literal addiction which these patients live with. We are not there yet, but we can get there and blanket condemnation by “Vatican” is disgustingly ignorant.


28 posted on 07/22/2021 10:08:27 PM PDT by amihow (It is Western Civilization that confers privilege, not whiteness. Ask Carson, MLK, Sowell.)
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To: amihow

From what I’ve seen and figured, sexual temptation towards homosexuality is not really any different in nature than any sexual temptation.

What about the man who is tempted to be in serial relationships with various women at various stages of seduction?

I know a pastor who admitted he struggled with that tendency, but has remained faithfully married to his beautiful wife. He said he has great compassion for those whose struggle is with homosexual tendencies instead.

Each of us has our own weaknesses and areas of temptation that we struggle with. It’s a matter of not letting our area of weakness, the temptation we struggle with, become our identity.


29 posted on 07/22/2021 10:53:30 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: metmom

I agree, all have sexual temptations. However, homosexual temptation is unatural and more fraught with greater negative emotional and physical effects.


30 posted on 07/22/2021 11:05:41 PM PDT by amihow (It is Western Civilization that confers privilege, not whiteness. Ask Carson, MLK, Sowell.)
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To: amihow

Exactly.

And it so goes against nature, that it tends to evoke a much more negative reactive from other people.

At least heterosexual temptation is the right order of things, therefore it’s more understandable to others and more likely to be met with compassion and understanding because I doubt there’s a person on the planet who hasn’t dealt with it at some point in their lives.


31 posted on 07/22/2021 11:13:01 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: dsc
Bergoglio and those who adhere to him are in schism.

He was selected by Church. There is no schism.

32 posted on 07/23/2021 6:44:31 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: Prole
Homosexual behavior is defiance to Almighty God.

Therefore not a disease in search of a cure. The "disease" model was the thin edge of the "gay rights" wedge fifty or more years ago.

33 posted on 07/23/2021 6:59:04 AM PDT by Salman (It's not a "slippery slope" if it was part of the program all along. )
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To: fwdude

“He was selected by Church.”

Bergoglio has excommunicated himself latae sententiae. He is no longer Catholic, much less pope.


34 posted on 07/23/2021 7:43:24 AM PDT by dsc (Abortion is the axe laid to the roots of the tree of human rights.)
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To: karnage

Pope Marx already tacitly supports abortion by refusing to condemn, or at least forbid communion, to the most pro abortion fanatics in the democrat party like Chomo Joe and Nasty Pelosi.


35 posted on 07/23/2021 12:24:02 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: marshmallow
The bishops are asked "not to support, participate [in] or recommend treatments" implemented by Truth and Freedom or other Catholic groups offering healing to homosexuals because "the methodology and the objectives followed are wrong."

Francis and the rest of the lavender mafia are BURSTING AT THE SEAMS wanting to tell the truth - but they don't dare to come out as a collective.

36 posted on 07/23/2021 12:29:31 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice)
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To: metmom

That is what I was going to say - sexual temptations are sexual temptations, unless homosexual sexual temptation is linked strictly to Satan.


37 posted on 07/23/2021 2:35:51 PM PDT by NetAddicted ( Just looking)
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To: marshmallow

Catholic Church clerisy is crawling with sodomites, yet Catholics still defend the “good men of the church” and fail to push for civilian control over the clerical elite.


38 posted on 07/24/2021 12:07:03 PM PDT by Clemenza (Elon Musk: wealthiest welfare queen in history )
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To: Clemenza

“Catholic Church clerisy is crawling with sodomites”

I guess Catholics just got tired of reminding everyone that priests are no worse than public school teachers or protestant ministers.


39 posted on 07/24/2021 7:51:32 PM PDT by dsc (Abortion is the axe laid to the roots of the tree of human rights.)
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To: dsc

No, you should trust married men who preach the word rather than a “celibate” clerical elite who tell you to pray and obey.


40 posted on 07/24/2021 8:54:32 PM PDT by Clemenza (Elon Musk: wealthiest welfare queen in history )
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