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San Diego’s Bishop Says Catholic Church Does Not Condone Religious Exemption to COVID Vaccines
The Times of San Diego ^ | August 13, 2021 | Chris Jennewein

Posted on 08/13/2021 2:19:19 PM PDT by ebb tide

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To: ConservativeMind
BTW. Orthodox are not Protestants. They are Orthodox.

That's why they follow El Popa, just like Catholics.

Are you drunk, addled, or just trolling?

41 posted on 08/13/2021 5:46:39 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

J&J, Moderna, and Phizer developed using aborted fetal cells is not the same thing as made from. There is substantial differences in rational thinking.

DR doesn’t understand the moral elemental questions.

When you deal with differences in subject, you differ substantially in the nature of an action.


42 posted on 08/13/2021 5:48:22 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: amihow
Covid Infection Rate Among Unvaccinated California Residents 522% Higher Than That Of Those Vaccinated

New data on coronavirus vaccine effectiveness may be "a wakeup call" ...[Moderna 76% - Pfizer only 42% effective]

Israel says Pfizer Covid vaccine is just 39% effective as delta spreads, but still prevents severe illness

43 posted on 08/13/2021 5:50:15 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Bayard

Stop trolling.


44 posted on 08/13/2021 5:51:08 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

You think I’m trolling but you simply don’t know Moral Theology.


45 posted on 08/13/2021 5:58:31 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: Bayard

You’re trolling because you don’t know about the jabs.
I thought I sent you a link from an MD discussing them.


46 posted on 08/13/2021 5:59:53 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: amihow
That also means though that if one refuses to take treatment, they have a serious duty to protect others by masking, isolating or whatever appropriate.


47 posted on 08/13/2021 6:00:39 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Bayard

Developed using is still strong enough for most Christians;
and you might be surprised to find out how little moral authority the homosexual ephebophiles running the Vatican actually have for anyone outside of Catholicism.
And therefore, by extension, their talking Commie sock-puppet Karl I.


48 posted on 08/13/2021 6:04:09 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

BTTT!!!


49 posted on 08/13/2021 6:04:23 PM PDT by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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To: Bayard

Interesting.

Would Moral Theology not prohibit vaccination of a vaccine developed and tested using aborted fetal cells?


50 posted on 08/13/2021 6:20:09 PM PDT by Fury
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To: amihow

“they have a serious duty to protect others by masking”

When the mask boxes admit to preventing the transmission or reception of covid or any other viral pathogen then your statement will be taken seriously.


51 posted on 08/13/2021 6:31:53 PM PDT by mrobisr (Romans 10:9-10, yes it's that easy!)
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To: Bayard

Let me re-ask the question:

Would Moral Theology permit declining a vaccination of a vaccine developed and tested using aborted fetal cells, via moral impossibility?


52 posted on 08/13/2021 6:33:17 PM PDT by Fury
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To: grey_whiskers

Looked at the Video, it doesn’t change my response that the Doctor in question doesn’t make a good argument.

There’s a difference in manufacture between J&J and Moderna and Pfizer.

These differences represent substantial changes in the nature of the moral actions. The Video itself doesn’t make a compelling argument.


53 posted on 08/13/2021 6:33:22 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: Fury

“Would Moral Theology not prohibit vaccination of a vaccine developed and tested using aborted fetal cells?”

There is a substantial difference when we’re talking about some form of cannibalism, re: “made from,” and “tested upon.”

You might recognize that a lot of Medical anatomy and knowledge itself comes from human testing which is not moral, but we use the knowledge and techniques anyway.

For example using cadavers “however obtained” for anatomy research. But everyone uses the knowledge obtained.

A Drug company that tested a vaccine is morally responsible for that testing, but this is a clear example where remote cooperation of evil applies to someone who gets a vaccine.

Remote and Proximate or formal cooperation with evil is a specifically thought out thing. We do this all the time btw. Take for example, our profit from slavery by purchasing products produced in places of the world where virtual slavery is the norm. Are we responsible for the modern world slavery?


54 posted on 08/13/2021 6:40:51 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: Bayard
These differences represent substantial changes in the nature of the moral actions.

No, they don't. None of the three were developed without the results of the deliberate murder of babies.

55 posted on 08/13/2021 6:41:49 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
No, they don't. None of the three were developed without the results of the deliberate murder of babies.

And since they were developed, what does that have to do with taking them now? You didn't complete the argument. Does everyone who takes the shot murder the child? No.

56 posted on 08/13/2021 6:47:01 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: Bayard

Thanks. Well put and thought out.


57 posted on 08/13/2021 6:51:25 PM PDT by Fury
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To: Bayard

Babies are still being murdered to this day and used for medical research.

By accepting these deathvaxxes, one is condoning on-going murder. He is participating in accepting genocide for the sake of his own health.


58 posted on 08/13/2021 6:56:22 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Bayard
For example using cadavers “however obtained” for anatomy research.

Most cadavers were not humans murdered for anatomy research.

59 posted on 08/13/2021 7:00:00 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Bayard

J&J, Moderna, and Phizer developed using aborted fetal cells is not the same thing as made from

killing a baby is wrong no matter what stage of the vaccine process it happens.


60 posted on 08/13/2021 7:00:35 PM PDT by JerryBlackwell (some animals are more equal than others)
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