Posted on 08/15/2023 8:57:23 PM PDT by ebb tide
Perhaps, but that is a heavily labored allegory in that interpretation and Jesus gave us a much more direct opinion about religious tradition. See Mark 7:9-13.
I suggest we be vary careful about tradition becoming the giver of Truth. All tradition starts somewhere, at which point it was not tradition. I can believe tradition can be a guide to the Truth but it is quite the leap to make tradition the final arbiter of Truth, especially when elevated above Scripture.
If an anti-Pope leads the “church”, then the stool is missing a leg. Pretending that Francis hasn’t replaced Christ with the Oppressed Indigene is a charade.
Absolutely 💯-—
Of The Twelve Apostles only John
Died of old Age.
Five Loaves and Two Fishes,
Christs’ death also covered the Saints of
the Old Testament.
The Transfiguration added to that adds another facet to the Glorious revelation of God’s redemptive plan!
Glory to God In the Highest!
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Five and Two
Fascinating-—
https://christs-disciples.org/rccism.php
100 plus point refutation of your pagan cult. Enjoy your whore while she lasts. Your “church” killed my brethren to stop the Word of God....and failed.
(Revelation 17:1-7 [KJV])
And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters: With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication. So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: And upon her forehead was a name written,
MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
His,
Bobby Z.
So, does the Holy Spirit tell different believers different things
= = =
Sometimes He does.
He tells men they are male.
He tells women they are female.
Actually you just take a chunk here and a chunk there.
Have you ever read a Biblical book from beginning to end rather than excerpts?
Rev 17 is talking about Jerusalem of 64 AD - this is clear when the book says this is the city where the Lord was crucified - namely Jerusalem of 64 AD (which was destroyed in 70 AD)
Both are failures for sure. That’s why I belong to a small Bible-believing church that doesn’t agree with any of that. Including anything or anyone believing they have a higher authority than the Word of God. Including the pastor or elder.
So, you DO think this pope is the vicar of Christ on the earth after all.
After all, he holds the office, the title, and was elected by the College of Cardinals according to Catholic protocol. That makes him the de facto legitimate pope, the guy you condemn and criticize constantly on this forum.
Not being in submission or subjection to him is dangerous for your eternal fate according to Unum Sanctum, which I don't recall has ever been rescinded.
If so, you are grossly wrong to say he wasn’t. To think the world’s Cardinals elected him in err is to say all of those who elected him, and the Pope himself, are evil.
In essence, you are saying the Catholic church is led by Satan and his henchmen.
Bingo.
I have asked Catholics several times if the College of Cardinals is led by the Holy Spirit in the selection of the new pope, and NEVER have gotten an answer. Well, a straight answer.
A few have danced around the issue, but for a simple *Yes* or *No* question, nope, not one straight answer.
Catholicism is hardly exempt from that.
Aside from the different rites and the schism between the Roman Rite and the EO, talk to any number of Catholics and you'll see just how many of them agree with each other on every single point of doctrine Catholicism espouses.
Heck, the Catechism of the Catholic church doesn't clarify anything either.
It's clear as mud. Just human gobbldeygook.
It's ludicrous that Catholics even pretend that there's unity of belief within Catholicism. Everyone can see that there isn't.
Twice today. Really?
If you really want to know why others reject your belief in this area, ask nicely instead of throwing down the gauntlet. Plenty of believers on here will be willing to explain it nicely.
If posters throw down on FR, they needn’t be surprised if they have to take a few punches to the ego in return. Pushback is not evidence of others being wrong; but rather that they find sectarian divisiveness or self-congratulatory pugnaciousness offensive.
Thank you.
Tradition is man sitting in judgment of Scripture, IOW, passing judgment on God and His ability to communicate with us.
Did you rush out to get vaccinated also?
Every time someone says that pope and Peter are connected I have to laugh.
Can you even IMAGINE Peter, a lowly fisherman from Galilee, ensconced in velvet, wearing a 2-foot-high Bedazzled hat, walled off from “the little people”, dripping with golden jewelry. The actual Peter must be offended constantly at this nonsense.
Jesus condemned the pharisees for their gaudiness and pretense. He had nothing good to say about man’s additions to the Law and their traditions.
And Catholics expect us to believe that Jesus replaced the Jewish ones with Catholic ones? And now it’s OK?
So much confusion it’s hard to know where to start.
I love my Church but not this Pope.
The Pope is Pontifus Maximus.
Listen to the Pope.
No, he doesn’t hold all the “traditions”.
We aren’t idolaters.
“Hail Mary......”
Pimping your own website. What a narcissist.
For all the condemnation about different denominations, I think for example of the charismatic movement.
The Assemblies of God believe the gifts are for today and include it in their statement of faith. Other denominations who have the exact same beliefs about salvation and sanctification and don’t have the same view on the gifts, still teach salvation by faith and all the rest. For example, The Christian and Missionary Alliance does not include it in their statement of faith. Their doctrinal statements of faith are otherwise identical.
THE CM&A has a huge overseas mission focus, which the AoG does not to the same degree.
That doesn’t mean that *Protestants* think one is right and one is wrong. It’s just a difference of ministry focus.
Then there’s Teen Challenge, which focuses on deliverance from drug and alcohol addictions. Same essentials. Different ministry focus.
So they are a separate denomination and Catholics like to use that as *proof* of the flaws of *Protestantism* and yet within Catholicism it is easily seen that there’s the same variation of ministry focus and belief. Just look at the Charismatic Catholic m movement within Catholicism. There’s no less a difference in beliefs between Charismatic Catholics, and the AoG and CM&A.
However, in light of the Catholic charismatic movement within the Catholic religion, they are all considered Catholics and the theological differences are downplayed to the point of being ignored.
And then there’s the point to note that having ONE head of the church and body deciding doctrine to be adhered to lockstep does neither prevent error from creeping in, nor guarantee that all adherents of the religion agree with them. And we see that even here and now.
Just ask Catholics if Pope Francis is the legitimate pope or not. Here on FR, you won’t find many that will. Go out to your local Catholic church somewhere like WNY, and the laity there think he’s the best thing since sliced bread.
So they condemn in others what they do themselves and then take the moral high ground as if they are better than everyone else.
What hypocrisy.
Agreed...
But by Grace we reach Glory it will be
Face to Face.
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