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Terror in the Ukraine
CERC ^ | Robert Royal

Posted on 06/07/2002 8:18:18 PM PDT by JMJ333

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1 posted on 06/07/2002 8:18:18 PM PDT by JMJ333
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Illnyk, Ukraine

2 posted on 06/07/2002 8:26:26 PM PDT by JMJ333
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Landscape near the Carpathian mountains.
3 posted on 06/07/2002 8:37:29 PM PDT by JMJ333
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To: JMJ333
Vasily Grossman , who was a "party activist" himself, wrote of the Ukrainian Holocaust:

Then, at the beginning of 1930, they began to round up the families too. This was more than the GPU could accomplish by itself.

All Party activists were mobilized for the job. They were all people who knew one another well and knew their victims, but in carrying out this task they became dazed, stupefied. They would threaten people with guns, as if they were under a spell, calling small children “kulak bastards,” screaming “Blood–suckers!” And those “bloodsuckers” were so terrified they had hardly any blood of their own left in their veins. They were as white as clean paper. The eyes of the Party activists were glassy, like the eyes of cats. They were in the majority after all, and they were dealing with people who were acquaintances and friends.

True, they were under a spell—they had sold themselves on the idea that the so-called “kulaks” were pariahs, untouchables, vermin. They would not sit down at a “parasite’s” table; the “kulak” child was loathsome; the young “kulak” girl was lower than a louse. They looked on the so-called “kulaks” as cattle, swine, loathsome, repulsive: they had no souls; they stank; they all had venereal diseases; they were enemies of the people and exploited the labor of others. . . . And there was no pity for them. They were not to be regarded as people. . . .

The [Party] activist committee included all kinds—those who believed the propaganda and who hated the parasites and were on the side of the poorest peasantry, and others who used the situation for their own advantage. But most of them were merely anxious to carry out orders from above. They would have killed their own fathers and mothers simply in order to carry out instructions.

And the worst were not those who really believed the destruction of the kulaks would bring about a happy life. For that matter, the wild beasts were not the most poisonous among them either. The most poisonous and vicious were those who managed to square their own accounts. They shouted about political awareness—and settled their grudges and stole. And they stole out of crass selfishness: some clothes, a pair of boots. It was so easy to do a man in: you wrote a denunciation; you did not even have to sign it. All you had to say was that he had paid people to work for him as hired hands, or that he had owned three cows. . . . . . .

What torture was meted out to them! In order to massacre them, it was necessary to proclaim that kulaks are not human beings. . . .

And so, at the beginning of 1930, they began to liquidate the kulak families. The height of the fever was in February and March. They expelled them from their home districts so that when it was time for sowing there would be no kulaks left, so that a new life could begin. That is what we all said it would be: “the first collective farm spring.” It is clear that the committees of Party activists were in charge of the expulsions. There were no instructions as to how the expulsions should be carried out. One collective farm chairman might assemble so many carts. . . .MORE

"Kulak" or "bourgeois" were usually synonymous with "Christian." Everyone knew who the targets were. Over 7 million dead and some in the west still claim the famine was mostly the work of bad planning and weather.

4 posted on 06/07/2002 8:37:55 PM PDT by LarryLied
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5 posted on 06/07/2002 8:38:45 PM PDT by JMJ333
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To: LarryLied
If I ever go to Europe, it won't be to visit France, et. al [although I do want to go to Italy]. I would love to see some of these eastern European countries. The people their have an unbreakable spirit!
6 posted on 06/07/2002 8:43:57 PM PDT by JMJ333
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Óæãîðîä: êàôåäðàëüíûé ñîáîð 1646 ã. [ Uzhgorod Cathedral]

7 posted on 06/07/2002 9:01:34 PM PDT by JMJ333
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To: eodguy
I know...I am pinging you to death! But I found all these interesting articles on Catholic suffering under the communists and wanted to make sure you saw them upon your return! =)
8 posted on 06/08/2002 7:00:03 PM PDT by JMJ333
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To: Catholic_list; father elijah; nickcarraway; SMEDLEYBUTLER; Siobhan; Lady in Blue...
Catholic suffering Ping!
9 posted on 06/09/2002 10:59:26 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: Salvation; JMJ333
thanks for the ping and for posting these images. Those in Eastern Europe are truly inspirational. May God Bless them and protect them.
10 posted on 06/10/2002 12:06:20 AM PDT by kstewskis
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11 posted on 06/10/2002 1:11:47 AM PDT by Askel5
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These days the only thing to fear in the Ukraine are those nasty US imports.
12 posted on 06/10/2002 1:44:47 AM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: kstewskis
You're welcome! I love that carved wooden cross---beautiful craftmanship.
13 posted on 06/10/2002 2:43:22 AM PDT by JMJ333
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To: struwwelpeter
Are you saying Ukrainian beer tastes better?? If you like good beer and ever happen to be in the Carribean, the best beer I have ever tasted was Kubuli beer in Dominica.

Kubuli beer "Kubuli and Dominica -- A Partnership Made in Paradise. Dominica's natural springwater is the perfect beginning for Kubuli's robust fresh taste. The island's 365 rivers and dozens of cascading waterfalls provide the inspiration for this fresh-tasting local brew."

=P

14 posted on 06/10/2002 2:50:14 AM PDT by JMJ333
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To: LarryLied
What an account. And to think how many Americans who should have known better wilfully blinded themselves to the horrors perpetrated by Communism/the left. And still do, of course.
15 posted on 06/10/2002 4:45:06 AM PDT by livius
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To: LarryLied
"Kulak" or "bourgeois" were usually synonymous with "Christian." Everyone knew who the targets were. Over 7 million dead and some in the west still claim the famine was mostly the work of bad planning and weather

No, the kulaks were the farmers who had privatized. They were budding capitalists.

16 posted on 06/10/2002 6:19:15 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: Salvation
There is so much about the history of the Ukraine that makes me weep. There are untold numbers of Ukrainian saints, both Catholic and Orthodox, and their witness and faithfulness to Jesus Christ and the Most Holy Virgin are what should shine through to us in contemplation. The Communists are still very much with us working their horrors in China as well as hiding under other names and working their evil in the West.

I also think of the Orthodox Russian saint known as St. Elizabeth the New Martyr. How Christians have suffered, but how glorious their fidelity to Christ.

I have become very interested in the messages of Our Lady of Soufanieh and her calls for unity among Christians and for a united date for Easter. In the days to come whether we call ourselves Catholic, Orthodox, or by some other name, we will find in facing the world and the State that we have great need of each other in withstanding as Christians.

17 posted on 06/10/2002 8:16:05 AM PDT by Siobhan
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messages of Our Lady of Soufanieh and her calls for unity among Christians and for a united date for Easter.

I am not familiar with these apparitions/messages. But a united Easter would be a wonderful place to start!

18 posted on 06/10/2002 8:20:09 AM PDT by Salvation
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To: Salvation
It is a great place to start with a unified date for Easter. Our dear freeper Lady In Blue posted an excellent article about Soufanieh which you can read here.

It is also very moving that the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople just celebrated the Divine Liturgy in the Catholic Cathedral in Ravenna, Italy. The first time that has happened since 1054. We must be one, because Jesus told us to be one, but we cannot do it by lowest common denominator theology. There is sacrifice, humbling ourselves, and learning from each other on the road ahead if we are serious about fulfilling Jesus' prayer we may be one.

19 posted on 06/10/2002 8:30:20 AM PDT by Siobhan
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To: JMJ333; Antoninus; sandyeggo; frogandtoad; saradippity; maryz; Jeff Chandler; ken5050; Slyfox...
It is so totally amazing to contemplate how the Catholic Church survived in the Ukraine, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, and Hungary with so much cruelty and villainy from civil authorities and from KGB agents who infiltrated the Russian Orthodox Church. How sorrowful the story, but oh how glorious their love of Jesus and His Church.
20 posted on 06/10/2002 8:33:53 AM PDT by Siobhan
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