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US Troops Deprived of Hot Meals, In-Door Toilets Training for Possible Conflict With Russia, China
Sputnik ^ | 22:02 28.08.2019 | Tim Korso

Posted on 08/28/2019 12:56:51 PM PDT by robowombat

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To: robowombat

If we get into a real war, we are going to be shocked how ill prepared we are.


61 posted on 08/28/2019 4:32:04 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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This is nothing new. It is not news. Come on think about it. In battle your going to say to the enemy “sorry I got to take a potty break”. Get real.


62 posted on 08/28/2019 4:33:37 PM PDT by Retvet (Retvet)
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To: glorgau

We fly boys can do without the sauna but ya best have that air conditioning running!


63 posted on 08/28/2019 4:37:40 PM PDT by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and Americans!)
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To: tet68

“Cat holes and lucky to have 20 year old C rations.”

Lucked out never finding Lucky Strike Green in a B-Unit.
Folded e-tool was a great “field-expedient” throne. On a good day, the liner from a case of C-Rats was also useful. Positive side of C-rats was never having to worry about the trots. Ahhhhh, the good times of humping on two C-Rats per day. Jenny Craig could learn a thing or two not to mention some take on Joy of Cooking.

Semper Fi!


64 posted on 08/28/2019 5:02:29 PM PDT by Huaynero
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To: centurion316

We stopped at March AFB while coming back from a deployment to NTC (National Training Center at Ft Irwin) years ago. We had to wait a couple of nights for airlift. We were staying in the TDY Quarters while the Army was using cots on the flightline - by choice, since there were lots of rooms available.

The NCOIC of my TACP was talking to the brigade commander (US Air Force TSgt to US Army Colonel for those not familiar with the military).

“I had to tell my guys to be careful about drinking the booze in the fridges. You can run up a big bill fast.”, my NCOIC said.

The Colonel stared at him. “I didn’t have a stocked refrigerator until I was an O-6!”, he said.

“And THAT is why I volunteered for the Air Force!”, my NCOIC replied.

I’m a good Baptist boy and didn’t drink the booze. But they weren’t exactly giving away the Diet Coke either...

But really? I logged years worth of time in tents at PSAB. They did have shower tents, although we once got down to one working shower for 5,000 people. They eventually had hard billets, but a fellow isn’t tired if he can’t sleep in the back of a HUMVEE.

And yes, there is a reason my youngest daughter is now in the Air Force, to include the advice she got from my son (US Army) and my oldest daughter (USMC).


65 posted on 08/28/2019 5:09:06 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Kickass Conservative

“Last time I checked, War is Hell.”

I did 25 years in the US Air Force. We believed War is Heck, and best done in small amounts.


66 posted on 08/28/2019 5:10:25 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: tet68

Imagine a government bureaucrat trying to come up with K Rations.

The earliest ones were all dehydrated like that pork patty thing that sometimes appeared in C rations. Except every damned thing in it was dehydrated and largely inedible without water from your canteen.

So your out in some mosquito infested jungle sweating your ass off trying to nurse the water you are carrying...and to eat you need a good amount of water from one of your canteens to reconstitute your food from a dry powdery block.

After the First Gulf war they improved and made chicken ala king and rice dishes and stuff that was moist. But the first ones fully earned the scorn with which they are referred to.


67 posted on 08/28/2019 5:58:53 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: Grimmy
Also early 80s Marine Corp. Third Marine Air Group. MASS-3. Camp Pendleton. I also spent about a year and a half on 29 Palms, broken up by exercises in El Centro and Yuma, among a few other hot places. Got so hot that some of us decided it would be better to sleep outside under the stars in the desert. So we did.

I was involved in communications so I strung a lot of telephone wire. We'd unroll miles of wire off of spools to hook up to a utility pole on a main road.

As for MREs, I will always remember the chicken loaf MRE. I seemed to get that one most of the time.

68 posted on 08/28/2019 6:06:01 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: libertylover

LoL, my favorite TDY was to Darwin RAAF, a tent city but steak everyday for dinner. At the end some of us got to move to a casino for a few days after everyone else left.


69 posted on 08/28/2019 6:10:10 PM PDT by Sparky1776
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To: robowombat

TUSLOG Det 67.
Add no electricity.

1978.

BFD.

5.56mm


70 posted on 08/28/2019 6:14:03 PM PDT by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! BUILD THE WALL!)
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To: M Kehoe

Walking the Cak...I was there in 78-79. Lovely place with lots to do...lol.


71 posted on 08/28/2019 6:25:29 PM PDT by damper99
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To: damper99

We probably missed each other by days.

“Walking the Cak.”

Yep.

5.56mm


72 posted on 08/28/2019 6:29:45 PM PDT by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! BUILD THE WALL!)
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To: Mr Rogers
We were staying in the TDY Quarters while the Army was using cots on the flightline - by choice, since there were lots of rooms available. Not exactly. When Army units travel, they aren't authorized TDY, a legacy of chasing Cornnwallis and Indians. Air Force units don't really travel, their crews do and they always have some sort of TDY support. While the Air Force is with the Army in Europe, the Balkans, Middle Easst, NTC, Asia, etc and share all of the hardships and lifestyle of the grunts, when they have a chance they can get away, find a gasthaus, a motel, TDY billets, etc and wash off the grime. No can do in the Regular Army O.

USAFE had a handy dandy handbook for the Air Force guys stationed with the Army divisions, telling them to sew little nametags in their underware, how to get a shower at a Schwimmbad, reminding them to file a TDY voucher when they went to a meeting in Frankfurt, and how to be comfortable in the field. Most of all, they were told that they were serving a hardship tour.

The good news is that these days, the Air Force is with the Army in every fight and it makes a difference. Life is hard in the desert, but making fun of the USAF keeps it real.

73 posted on 08/29/2019 7:22:38 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: centurion316

My family has Air Force, Army & Marines. And my youngest was in Navy JrROTC - before enlisting in the Air Force. Makes for lots of insults at Thanksgiving, but that is OK.

My ribbons include an Army Commendation Medal and (oddly) a Navy Sea Service ribbon - although I was never at sea. But the land-based Navy squadrons got them too because otherwise it would look bad on their records for the Navy guys and the Navy gave them to us embedded Air Force guys too.

No “joint service” time though...


74 posted on 08/29/2019 8:08:19 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: robowombat

This story is so ridiculous, I can’t think of a comment except maybe this is what you get when you allow LGBTs in the military...


75 posted on 08/29/2019 10:53:40 AM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: Huaynero

“...Lucked out never finding Lucky Strike Green in a B-Unit...”

I did in Vietnam...I lit one up and it sizzled and crackled like a sparkler it was so dry...LOL


76 posted on 08/29/2019 10:58:43 AM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: robowombat
Our foreign policy is not conservative, Constitutional, or putting the US first. I worry what would happen if a large enough group of nations who we don't favor got together and decided they have nothing to lose by going to war against the US and the countries we favor.

We as a nation have become fat and lazy. Even our finest institutions have been polluted and marginalized by Affirmative Action and low expectations. Too many people don't think for themselves and have been taught that patriotism is obsolete and wrong. I can't imagine that most of the US population would have the will or the skills to be the victors in a war against populations which have coped with hardship.

77 posted on 08/29/2019 11:02:30 AM PDT by grania ("We're all just pawns in their game")
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"a Navy Sea Service ribbon - although I was never at sea. But the land-based Navy squadrons got them too because otherwise it would look bad on their records for the Navy guys and the Navy gave them to us embedded Air Force guys too."

That's uncool. Sailors who spend months at sea in a metal box, earn those ribbons. My big gripe is the National Service ribbon that is awarded to anyone if the US has a conflict somewhere in the world.

I served from '75 - '87 (cold war) and wasn't able to wear one. Yes, it's just a pointless "geedunk" ribbon given right out of basic nowadays, but always thought it unfair. I'm pretty sure I served my Nation with all those hours on the flight deck. Waaaa.

78 posted on 08/30/2019 10:38:37 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (I'm not Islamophobic - I'm Islamonauseous. Also LGBTQxyz nauseous.)
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To: MrEdd
"C rats are better than MREs."

I'd trade you for the dry baloney sandwich on the flight deck at zero dark thirty. I'm talking stale slices of bread with one piece of baloney and nothing else. I've had MRE's - not so bad.

79 posted on 08/30/2019 10:44:36 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (I'm not Islamophobic - I'm Islamonauseous. Also LGBTQxyz nauseous.)
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To: A Navy Vet

They improved a lot after the Gulf War, for which they couldn’t manufacture enough so we got bulk groceries from Malaysia.


80 posted on 08/30/2019 10:57:41 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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