Posted on 01/15/2024 9:07:20 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
Quayle was alright. So, I guess, was Bush. Nixon was good as well.
But back before Nixon, when vice presidents knew that they should be seen (as little as possible) and not heard (at all), they may have been even better (with a few exceptions, like Aaron Burr and Henry Wallace).
I think it was LBJ who started the idea that they had to have their own platform or portfolio or responsibilities (and his wife Lady Bird who came up with the same idea for First Ladies). It was another power grab. Things were better when they were just figureheads.
No one held a gun to his head. He could have (should have) called in sick that day. Leahy would have plunged the knife. But you say Pence was carrying out his formal duty? Why? He didn't have to. A decent man would have refused and resigned. Pence could have refused, thrown the electoral process into chaos, avoided J6 and the overthrow of the United States of America via Joe Biden.
But Pence WANTED to stab Trump in the back. The Steal would not have been possible if it were not for Michael Richard Pence. Yeah, you're right. Pence's actions WERE the most meaningful in any way. Even if LBJ was directly responsible for ordering the hit on Kennedy - what Pence did was even worse.
This being true, Pence wins my vote for the most evil and corrupt SOB VP ever.
First Ladies? That gives me an idea. I should run a thread discussion on the best of and worst of all First Ladies.
I kind of like Aaron Burr myself. Except for, you know, the shooting part.
Lol. Maybe that’s why he was the best!!
Yup.
Okay. But why?
Probably Nixon or Humphrey, who contested each other in the 1968 peresidential election
“You gotta be kidding - he was the deep state plant.”
Reagan and Bush worked very well together. Deep State or not, Bush’s experiences provided Reagan with clarity on what was going on in the world.
Seeing what has become of his Democrat Party, HHH looks better and better than he did from 1965-1969.
Hey - we got John Paul Stephens out of the Ford deal...
Two words.....
Deep State
One of the few Rats of the modern era who thought the US should be sovereign and be capable of defending itself.
Agree to DISAGREE!!
Never good to excuse DS, imo, btw.
Sorry to say but Bush Sr. and Cheney were Deep State players who have shackled us with more government control in the guise of the Patriot Act. Bush Sr. ran the CIA which proves his Deep State credentials. History will not be kind to Cheney either.
Maybe a list of First Ladies, and opinions, would get more response. They seem more active and effective.
Wasn’t he in his fifth term in Watchmen?
Turns out Dan Quyale might have been the best of the bunch.
Whodathunk it.
VPs rarely make any decisions independent of their Presidents, so there's no objective way to measure them. So the question is really pointless unless you're measuring based on competence, not politics.
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