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Scientists have new theory on ice age
Lawrence Journal-World ^ | 12/29/2003 | Alea Smith

Posted on 12/30/2003 2:29:48 PM PST by EUPHORIC

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To: EUPHORIC; RadioAstronomer; AAABEST; Ace2U; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; amom; AndreaZingg; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.

Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.

21 posted on 12/30/2003 4:10:42 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: EUPHORIC
Researchers now believe a cosmic explosion 440 million years ago may have decimated life on Earth.

The New York Times reports that women and minorities were severely impacted, while Tom Dascle was very concerned and deeply troubled,

22 posted on 12/30/2003 4:15:17 PM PST by night reader
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To: jwalsh07

23 posted on 12/30/2003 4:18:13 PM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: EUPHORIC
The gamma-ray burst was caused by global warming. </sarc>
24 posted on 12/30/2003 4:19:16 PM PST by TheJollyRoger (Repeal the 17th ammendment.)
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To: night reader
Researchers now believe a cosmic explosion 440 million years ago may have decimated life on Earth.

I thought Bush was elected in 2000.

gitmo
25 posted on 12/30/2003 4:23:48 PM PST by gitmo (Who is John Galt?)
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To: John H K
Much of the contempt that people have for science on FR is actually just caused by moron non-science writers getting it totally wrong for a general audience, not the scientists themselves.

Hear, hear.

I'd like to second that sentiment. When science looks stupid to an audience of layman, more often than not it's because the public reporting of it is garbled to the point of nonsense.

The second most common reason is because anyone with a lab coat can call himself a "scientist" and call a press conference to hear and report whatever wild notion he has, whether it's poorly grounded or not. Then the press dutifully reports, "Scientists say (or have found) that..."

It's important to remember that there's no "central science board" clearing and issuing such statements. Anyone can issue a press release about their latest "study", even if they've never managed to get any respected science journal to accept it for publication (or never even tried).

So how does "Science" with a capital "S" come about if there's no "central committee"? By the peer-review process -- people who have done new studies or come up with new hypotheses publish their work in one of the science journals, and after everyone else in the field has had a chance to check it out and critique it (ripping apart any that have obvious flaws, some of the review an be quite brutal), the work that survives the initial inspection and subsequent independent testing/verification gain acceptance by enough of the scientific community that it becomes part of the "body of knowledge" of science (even if there are always a few cranks who will inevitably dissent).

So in short, "Science" is that body of work which has gained widespread acceptance by the scientific community because it has been found to be solid. It's a matter of consensus.

So feel free to laugh at what any particular self-described "scientist" may say, but remember that it's often not the same as what "Science" as an institution holds or has accepted, and should be taken as no reflection on the institution's reliability.

26 posted on 12/30/2003 4:40:41 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: EUPHORIC
If you would allow me to detour this thread a bit, can some science type here help me out. Is it prions that were discovered bombarding earth and if I have that right are they the same prions discussed in the Mad Cow hysteria ?

Now back to your regular programing...

27 posted on 12/30/2003 4:49:18 PM PST by tubebender (Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see...)
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To: EUPHORIC

Gamma Man 'Belted' page 1

28 posted on 12/30/2003 4:58:24 PM PST by Incorrigible (immanentizing the eschaton)
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To: tubebender
"Is it prions that were discovered bombarding earth and if I have that right are they the same prions discussed in the Mad Cow hysteria ? "

Here's the difference:

Prions are proteins associated with the Mad Cow disease.

Pions are sub-atomic particles formed from the decay of a (particle known as a) kaon. (particle physics)
29 posted on 12/30/2003 5:16:29 PM PST by edwin hubble
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To: EUPHORIC
Melott said if a gamma-ray burst occurred within 10,000 light years on this side of the galaxy, the effects on Earth would be devastating.

Best candidate for an Earth-fryer:

Eta Carinae is an *extremely* unstable supermassive star 8,000 light years from Earth. 150 years ago it flared up so strongly it reached energy outputs usually only seen in star-destroying supernova explosions (it became one of the brightest stars in the Earthly skies), producing the gigantic "barbell" shaped nebula seen in the photo above.

The cloud is so gigantic (4 *trillion* miles across) that one *pixel* in that image is about the size of our entire solar system. The cloud is expanding at 1.5 million miles per hour. The star itself is that white glow in the middle.

Eta Carinae is one of the most massive stars in our galaxy, and when it eventually lets loose and explodes it it is expected to temporarily outshine the rest of our galaxy combined, and may release enough gamma-ray energy to cause serious (or fatal) problems here on Earth.

And it's so unstable that astronomers have no way of knowing when it might finally "go off" -- every year it undergoes unpredictable fluctuations that might be precursors to the "big one". Note how much it has fluctuated in just this past year:

Radio emissions movie over the past 10 years:

Its final explosion could come at any time. It's always on the edge of going critical.

Sleep well.


30 posted on 12/30/2003 5:23:33 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: EUPHORIC
There are more theories than there are scientists. What's up with that?
31 posted on 12/30/2003 7:08:17 PM PST by polemikos (Paralysis through analysis)
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To: EUPHORIC
Our tax dollars at work. Millions upon billions in grants for a bunch of degreed nutballs to theorize - a fancy word to make guessing sound more palletable.
32 posted on 12/30/2003 7:18:05 PM PST by Havoc ("Alright; but, that only counts as one..")
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To: steveo
Anne Elk?!?! Where???

Right next to the moose that bit my sister . . . . . .

33 posted on 12/30/2003 8:14:16 PM PST by WIladyconservative (Proud monthly donor)
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To: Ichneumon
Eta Carinae is one of the most massive stars in our galaxy, and when it eventually lets loose and explodes it it is expected to temporarily outshine the rest of our galaxy combined, and may release enough gamma-ray energy to cause serious (or fatal) problems here on Earth.

That will certainly ruin my day!

34 posted on 12/30/2003 8:15:04 PM PST by WIladyconservative (Proud monthly donor)
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To: Ichneumon
Mindboggling. Thanks for posting this. Eta Carinae is 8,000 light years from earth, is this the closest, or one of the closest stars to earth? Other than the sun of course.
35 posted on 12/30/2003 10:09:56 PM PST by sasportas
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Alpha Centauri (sp?) is roughly four light-years from earth, as I recall.
36 posted on 12/30/2003 10:38:39 PM PST by DuncanWaring (...and Freedom tastes of Reality.)
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To: VadeRetro
Gee, this is a badly written article.

Actually you are just not a comprehensive reader.

Article FULLY explains how this could cause an ice age.

Straight up.

37 posted on 12/30/2003 11:11:27 PM PST by EUPHORIC (Right? Left? Read Ecclesiastes 10:2 for a definition. The Bible knows all about it!)
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To: Ichneumon
Best candidate for an Earth-fryer:

INDEED! What we are seeing is probably the "cracker blast" and the front of radiation is most likely on the way right now.

Takes longer for most gamma and other fun things to travel then photons.

38 posted on 12/30/2003 11:15:33 PM PST by EUPHORIC (Right? Left? Read Ecclesiastes 10:2 for a definition. The Bible knows all about it!)
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To: EUPHORIC
Takes longer for most gamma and other fun things to travel then photons.

Interesting take on EMR.

39 posted on 12/30/2003 11:23:43 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: farmfriend
BTTT!!!!!
40 posted on 12/31/2003 4:38:16 AM PST by E.G.C.
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