Senator Orrin G. Hatch: Provoking a Split Within Conservatism Again

Newsmax.com ^ | 04-05-03 | Weyrich, Paul M.

[GeronL]

The guy would suck in sales

yes he would. But he is right about Hatch and Specter

[Pukin Dog]

It's my old friend FairOpinion, spouting off at the mouth as usual. When Utah is about to bring a Democrat to the Senate, be sure to wake me, okay?

Orrin Hatch out of the Senate would not affect the majority in the least.

[Torie]

Specter is expendable. I will never forgive him for his conduct in the Bork hearings. Never. His conduct there was at once demagogic, and terminally ignorant and stupid. I have a long memory. Specter has a way below average IQ for his tribe. Sorry to be so un-PC about it. I know, it is not like me to be un-PC, except I sometimes stray off the the PC plantation. Maybe the problem is that the water is bad in Russell, Kansas, in which both Dole and Specter grew up.

[ClintonBeGone]

Funny you should question Dole and Spector when the guy you're defending - Hatch - is no better than the other two.

[blanknoone]

I hope Hatch get Toomeyed. Utah is conservative enough to elect a real conservative.

[Torie]

I call them as I see them. Finding differences in apparent similarities, and similarities in apparent differences, is what I get paid the big bucks for.

[GeronL]

To me Hatch, Spectre, Snowe, Chafee etc are all part of a different tribe.

[exit82]

Three words about Orrin: The Dream Act.

He gives RINOs a bad name.

[ClintonBeGone]

I call them as I see them. Finding differences in apparent similarities, and similarities in apparent differences, is what I get paid the big bucks for.

Anyone can count. Anyone can identify differences and similarities. The question is can they count and identify them accurately.

[Digger]

Let's have Republicans bashing Republicans in a presidential election year. (/sarcasm)

We can't have that now can we? What's really important is what's best for the good ole party, not for us Americans. I guess we need 85 Hatches in Congress. Yeh, that's the answer. BTW Hatch has sold all conservatives out every time the chance arises. If you are a true FReeper you must want TRUE conservative agendas being passed. Hatch is NOT your man. While we are at it - there will NEVER be a true conservative agenda ever presented in this "Two-Party Cartel". So run out like good little lemming pubbies & vote this thing back in office. Yeh, ya really showed them dems, right....as Hatch a$$ kisses the dems to secure their agenda.

[FairOpinion]

Please explain how a Democrat victory is good for the country and the American people.

[Cedric]

Hatch is like McCain, Conservative by popular reputation, but strangely always available when the Dems need a Republican to split the GOP or to bolster a Dem proposal.

[KC Burke]

have to agree with everything Paul has written about Hatch. When reviewing all the decades I've been involved in politics, I can't recall a greater disappointment to my conservative nature than the inconsistent, curious career of the senator from Utah.

In my salad days, he appeared to be a shining new knight in The Cause. Now in my oat bran days, I consider him a worn-out, befuddled Don Quixote, charging on his broken-down donkey at all the wrong windmills.....and scarcely realizing he no longer knows (or cares) what The Cause really is.

While Wyrich's been aptly described above by others as a perennial prompter for circular firing squads, I have to say your assessment of the heart of the matter with Hatch is dead on.

Someone was making a Sales analogy, and despite his flame and bluster during Presentations, Hatch is no Closer.

At the time of Impeachment, Hatch was so imperious that without the rock solid political sense of Phill Gramm, we would have seen a humiliating Censure Motion passed in place of an Impeachment vote.

[vaudine]

Well said. You nailed him.

vaudine

[Itzlzha]

Please explain how a Democrat victory is good for the country and the American people.

Easy!

If you are eating a crap sandwich provided by those you support, it seems to be in the (R) mold to just grin and eat, hoping for something better...

When you are "force-fed" a crap sandwich by your sworn enemy, it provides a rallying point for revolt and REAL change.

THAT is why we cannot tolerate the RINOs YOU apparachiks support so pavlovian! They are the ones that are FEEDING us crap, and you expect us to just grin and eat!

No more crap sandwiches from our supposed "friends"!

[KC Burke]

Dole, as a man that grew up and became a war hero even before conservatism was reborn in the early fifties from the isolationism of the America Firsters held the conservative floodgates against the high tide of liberalism when even Goldwater got waffley in his later years.

In minority, a compromise is often all you can get and he got thousands on his watch. He held the line until youngsters with a fresh constituency and fresh armor of principle could come to the line.

He was treated crappy by demagogue Nixon, when he was Party chair, and now, in retirement, his long service of contribution is being disparaged by people that weren't even in the fray.

[itsahoot]

Weyrich seems to be trying to generate a GOP circular firing squad.

Just d@mn, and he has an (R) by his name too.

Moderates have killed the conservative movement with their BIG TENT.

[aruanan]

Hatch is a bad egg.

[Torie]

Well Dole for all his talent, had a certain scar tissue psych, and I cannot forget ever his pathetic presentation when he ran for president. He made it all so meaningless, and was so lazy about it all. By the time he finally got the silver, his aging mind had become disengaged. Sad, really.

[rrrod]

IMHO, time for Hatch to move on...his obsession with getting non native born Americans to serve as pres. is almost comical. Perhaps if he spent more time going after the RATS instead of defending them i might be able to think seriously of him.