U.S. Troops Capture Lieutenant of Al-Sadr

Yahoo news ^ | 5/36/04 | ROBERT H. REID, AP

[DeaconRed]

"U.S. troops captured a key lieutenant of radical Shiite leader."

Bring on the babe wiff the leash.
Wait this time bring in a PIG make him kiss the PIG.
If we can't find a PIG TED KENNEDY will do.

[evad]

3 something else

We want to continue to kill off his minions.

[Coop]

Slow improvement in things over the coming months will be great, but that won't change the news war.

I disagree. All that really needs to occur, IMHO, is for the Iraq situation to get lost in the news, so to speak. Easier said than done, I realize (especially with an anti-American press), but I don't think Dubya needs great news from Iraq to win this election. He just needs to be able to get his message out.

However, I wouldn't mind Zarqawi being taken out in a very painful manner.

[evad]

OK, well exactly what would be just right. Since this guy may know how we can prevent some of our troops from being killed, it brings up a very interesting problem, does it not.

It does indeed..
the A-G prison scandal is certainly much more than improper interrogation procedures. But to answer your question, there is almost no limit to what should be done in the case of these terrorists to acquire information..
IMO.

I'm reminded of the officer that was put on display because he fired a weapon next to a prisoner's head in an effort to extract critical intel. I have no problem with what he did..in fact, I commend him.

[snooker]

Yeah and a corollary question is in hindsight what would have been the proper way to interrogate Muhammad Atta if he was captured say 2 months before 9/11 happened.

Makes for interesting thought. Especially for all the hand wringing connect the dots type on the 9/11 commission and in the media.

[AMNZ]

Oh Please - Don't mistreat him. #@*&#

[Cap Huff]

I hope you are right. In my more optimistic moments I think along those lines, but it has been a couple of very discouraging months, hasn't it?

[evad]

..the proper way to interrogate Muhammad Atta if he was captured say 2 months before 9/11 happened.

If we had serious belief that he was about to launch what did eventually happen on 9/11, it's whips, razor blades, drills and saws.

If that doesn't work, then we get rough.

Best case scenario=we get the intel we need..
Worst case scenario=one less terrorist a$$ hole.

[greasepaint]

GWB needs to start thinking about an exit strategy.

[Carcharodon]

I'm sure they are but the problem is that US forces are not able to get into the places where the bugs can work most effectively.

British intel fought the IRA to a stalemate largely by using surveillance technology - "jarking" - and so on. But they had the advantage of being able to get to the cars, houses, sheds etc that mattered. The US forces in Iraq do not.

The Iraqi fighters will pass instructions largely through word-of-mouth and couriers.

[snooker]

The problem is you don't know what he knows. Time adds clarity, that you don't have 2 months before the event.

So now what do you do? You don't even know which one knows anything. Do you treat all the prisoners and terrorists to the same fun and games?

Connecting the dots is not as easy as it looks. It's always easier to connect dots when you know what happened.

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

AP recap, ping.

(Accuracy not yet verified by the good guys.)

[ohioWfan]

Ummmmmmmmm...........START thinking??

You missed his speech Monday, did you?

[Blood of Tyrants]

The ministry blamed the deteriorating situation on the failure of the U.S.-run occupation authority "to guarantee the necessary security."

Glad to see that all our enemies are on the same side.

[evad]

Do you treat all the prisoners and terrorists to the same fun and games?

Indeed, it is difficult to determine "what he knows" or if he know anything. And I'm no authority in interrogation procedures but my point is, whatever the best means for getting info is, I would not be encumbered by PC, etc..

Also note, I specifically referred to "these prisoners" and "If we had serious belief" in determining who should be dealt with in what manner.
I'm not in favor of whips, chains, saws and drills for everyone just in the hope of ferreting out a few.

Oh by the way, the first one that was nominated for the "supreme treatment", I'd tape it. Then I'd show it to Candidate #2 before he was about to get the nod. He may just do it the easy way instead of the hard way. I know it would run the risk of winding up on CNN or 60 minutes..but, I don't care. To get the info I would be willing to run that risk.

[Lunatic Fringe]

You can run, but you'll only die tired.

[TexKat]

U.S. Army soldiers inspect a bullet ridden mini bus after an attack on foreigners in Baghdad, Iraq, Wednesday, May 26, 2004. A convoy with seven Russian workers was ambushed near a Baghdad power station, killing two of the foreigners and seriously injuring five, Iraqi police say. The Russian firm for whom the foreigners are working says it will evacuate all employees after second fatal attack in Iraq. (AP Photo/Mohammed Uraibi)

Iraqi workers stand near a damaged bus after it came under attack near the Al-Doura power plant in central Baghdad, May 26, 2004. Two employees of a Russian company working on a power plant in Iraq were killed and at least five of the colleagues were injured on Wednesday when their bus came under attack, officials said. REUTERS/Thaer Al-Sudani

U.S. Army soldiers inspect a bullet ridden mini bus after an attack on foreigners in Baghdad, Iraq, Wednesday, May 26, 2004. A convoy with seven Russian workers was ambushed near a Baghdad power station, killing two of the foreigners and seriously injuring five, Iraqi police say. The Russian firm for whom the foreigners are working says it will evacuate all employees after second fatal attack in Iraq. (AP Photo/Mohammed Uraibi)

A U.S. Army soldier walks past the site of a suspected car bomb in the Iraqi capital Baghdad, May 26, 2004. Two Iraqis were killed and two policemen were injured, police sources said on Wednesday. REUTERS/Ceerwan Aziz

Iraqi children run as away from a burning street barricade at the entrance to the suburb of Sadr City, Baghdad, Iraq, Wednesday, May 26, 2004. The mostly poor Shia neighborhood of Sadr City, that has a large support base for radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, has witnessed almost daily armed clashes with the US army. (AP Photo/Karim Kadim)

US soldiers secure the area where a car bomb exploded in Baghdad. Three Iraqis were killed and 18 others wounded, including a senior police officer, when a car bomb exploded at Balad Ruz, 75 kilometres northeast of the Iraqi capital.(AFP/File/Ramzi Haidar)

U.S. Marine Richard Sullivan, from Chicago, Illinois, kneels while keeping patrol on a dirt road near Falluja, Iraq early May 26, 2004. REUTERS/Adrees Latif

Iraqis carry the coffin of militiaman Waleed Abdul Zahrah, 28, who was killed in overnight clashes between armed militiaman loyal to radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr and U.S. troops in Sadr City, Baghdad, Iraq, Wednesday, May 26, 2004. (AP Photo/Karim Kadim)

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Thanks for the ping!

[cookcounty]

"In Moscow, the executive director of the company, Alexander Rybinsky, said Wednesday the firm would evacuate all its staff from Iraq "

Didn't the Russians already have 5 evacuations?

[No Blue States]

"U.S. troops captured a key lieutenant of radical Shiite leader Muqtada al-Sadr during overnight clashes in Najaf"

Good, now MAKE him talk by any means.