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U.S. Troops Capture Lieutenant of Al-Sadr
Yahoo news ^ | 5/36/04 | ROBERT H. REID, AP

Posted on 05/26/2004 3:13:56 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: greasepaint

Exit strategies are for ops that don't matter. Ops where the outcome is irrelevant, asin decoys. This operation HAS to succeed, therefore the only strategy can be victory. THAT is what the President outlined on Monday.

And our President generally gets what he wants...


41 posted on 05/26/2004 6:48:22 AM PDT by ex 98C MI Dude (Proud Member of the Republican Attack Squad)
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To: AmericanChef

Put RosO'donnell's panties on him. He will be in a panty cocoon!


42 posted on 05/26/2004 7:10:20 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: Coop; Jumper

Another problem is that the military has limited resources.

It costs a great deal of money to use advanced technology, and the acquisition cycle goes through an usually appropriately stingy congress. That delays deployment, too.

In addition, it is often not known what quantity of each item is useful to have until you are actually in the swamp you are draining this time.

Yeah, we are using the tech we have, but I'm sure there are limited quantities available.
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43 posted on 05/26/2004 7:48:38 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: kattracks
From Germany's "Spiegel-Online"....Sadr spokeman - Negotiations off - liquidation of militia is underway.


U.S. troops tighten ring around Sadr

The U.S. armed forces are serious about their hunt for radical Shiite leader Sadr and his militia. Soldiers have now arrested a close friend of the preacher in a raid in Najaf. In addition, they fought an intense battle with Sadr supporters there - in a cemetery.

Firefight in the center of Najaf

Najaf - A spokesman for Muktada Al Sadr said today that Rijad Al Nurj, a relative of the Shiite leader, had been arrested during a search of his house last night. The houses of three other close friends of Sadr had also been searched. However, no one was arrested. "This is a part of the military escalation by the US against the Shiites", the spokeman said. "We have given up hope for negotiation. What is happening now is the liquidation of Shiites, primarily the Sadr movement."

The Sadr's militia started a rebellion against the U.S. led occupation forces last month. Their resistance, in the meantime, is concentrated essentially in the south Iraqi cities of Najaf, Karbala and Kufa. U.S. army has tried for months, to capture Sadr. He had announced he would fight the occupation forces until the last foreign soldier had left Iraq. According to U.S. information, Sadr is sought by the Iraqi authorities in connection with the murder of a rival clergyman last year.

The U.S. army advanced with tanks and gunships against the militia in the cemetery of the sacred Shiite city of Najaf. According to information from hospital employees, four people were killed and at least 29 people injured at the battle. The cemetery is the most important hideout for Sadr's militia in Najaf.

"Der Spiegel"....US-Truppen ziehen Kreis um Sadr enger

Translated by longjack

44 posted on 05/26/2004 7:55:56 AM PDT by longjack
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To: kattracks
The ministry blamed the deteriorating situation on the failure of the U.S.-run occupation authority "to guarantee the necessary security."

Really? How's that rebuilding effort going in Chechnya?

45 posted on 05/26/2004 8:25:10 AM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: sheik yerbouty

-"Put RosO'donnell's panties on him. He will be in a panty cocoon!"-

Har! And make him listen to her "very, very, very, very" audio, for added oomph!


46 posted on 05/26/2004 8:27:54 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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To: greasepaint
GWB needs to start thinking about an exit strategy.

What was the exit strategy for Kosovo. Ooops, never mind, we're still there.

47 posted on 05/26/2004 8:30:09 AM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: kattracks

Anybody have any idea of the initial numbers of the Mahdi Army? I've read reports of "hundreds of insurgents," but that could mean anything between one hundred and a thousand.

I'm curious to see what the REAL numbers of Mookie's troops are, because it seems to me that with us killing 20 or 30 a day, if he has an army of, say, 400, we should be causing some pretty serious attrition by now.


48 posted on 05/26/2004 8:36:53 AM PDT by Terabitten (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of All Who Threaten It)
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To: Cap Huff
In my more optimistic moments I think along those lines, but it has been a couple of very discouraging months, hasn't it?

Not particularly. Yes, I wish the Sadr rebellion had never occurred, but I'm also looking at it positively. The Iraqis rejected Sadr and his ilk (rarely if ever mentioned by the media), our forces have killed hundreds of thugs that would have undoubtedly caused problems later, they've taken a large amount of weapons out of circulation, and we've shown that we're not going anywhere.

Meanwhile, each day the Iraqi infrastructure gets a little better.

The lowest moment for me the past couple of months, honestly, was losing Pat Tillman.

49 posted on 05/26/2004 8:43:52 AM PDT by Coop (Freedom isn't free)
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To: Carcharodon
I'm sure they are but the problem is that US forces are not able to get into the places where the bugs can work most effectively.

I wasn't talking about bugs.

50 posted on 05/26/2004 8:46:12 AM PDT by Coop (Freedom isn't free)
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To: Cap Huff
The "news" dynamic of this situation has got to change if we're going to see overall improvement in the propaganda war.

True. And in that vein, while I was reading, I noted that this particular article seemed to stick fairly well to reporting actual information. Out of curiosity, I checked the byline -- sure enough, the author of the piece did not have an Arabic name.

That's now one of the first things I check -- an Arabic-sounding name is usually a good indication that there is biased reporting to follow. I wonder if any of the news organizations are becoming sensitive to that correlation?

51 posted on 05/26/2004 8:46:45 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: kattracks

There is only violence in three town in Iraq today: Najaf, Kufa and Baghdad and the democrats say the situation in Iraq is 'out of control'. I wonder how they are going to spin the war after that punk al Sadr is dead?


52 posted on 05/26/2004 8:47:32 AM PDT by rudypoot (Rat line = Routes that foreign fighters use to enter Iraq.)
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To: AmericanChef

A veritable wall(whale?)of sound!


53 posted on 05/26/2004 9:01:37 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: TexKat

In the photo of the funeral procession, Muqtada al-Sadr is pointing to where a well-placed bullet should be aimed. Right between the eyes.


54 posted on 05/26/2004 9:04:18 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (ISLAM IS A CULT, PURE AND SIMPLE!!!!!)
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To: kattracks

Always the "key lieutenant," the "top aide," the "close associate."

Why not al-Sadr? And why "capture?" They run out of bullets?


55 posted on 05/26/2004 9:54:43 AM PDT by Redbob (still hoping for the "self-illuminating glass-bottomed parking lot" solution to the Iraq problem)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
We are winning ~ the bad guys are losing ~ trolls, terrorists, democrats and the mainstream media are sad ~ very sad!

~~ Bush/Cheney 2004 ~~

56 posted on 05/26/2004 10:03:18 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl

Bump!


57 posted on 05/26/2004 10:29:31 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: r9etb

That correlation they may be aware of, but doing little or nothing about changing, as I see it. In any event, there's still lots of biased reporting coming from "western" reporters as well.


58 posted on 05/26/2004 10:49:41 AM PDT by Cap Huff
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To: Jumper
"It amazes me that we do not use detection devices, e.g., sound, video or drones to keep tabs on certain areas. Apparently, we are have not embraced technology enough to counter the silent death that stalks us."

What crack are you smoking that you would think that we would, without intel, pull al-Sadr's key aide out of the 25 million people of Iraq without so much as him firing a single shot back at us?

You don't just stick your hand *blindly* into a hay stack and get to pull out the needle without so much as a pinprick, after all.

59 posted on 05/26/2004 12:36:10 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: kattracks

Most puzzling. Fox news had video of Al Sadr and some of his supporters on the 11:00 AM (EDT) news this morning.

Question: If they can get a camera on this a$$hole, why can they not get crosshairs on the murdering sonofabitch!


60 posted on 05/26/2004 12:41:54 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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