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Ancient Map Shows Egg-Shaped England
The Guardian (UK) ^ | 6-6-2004 | Vanessa Thorpe

Posted on 06/06/2004 5:45:19 PM PDT by blam

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1 posted on 06/06/2004 5:45:19 PM PDT by blam
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To: farmfriend

GGG ping.


2 posted on 06/06/2004 5:45:54 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
How the hell can they run an article like that and not have a picture of the map?

Oh, it's the Guardian. Nevermind.

3 posted on 06/06/2004 5:46:37 PM PDT by Petronski (Some leftists find Bush's very existence to be a "constant oppressive force in their daily psyche.")
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To: blam
So Arabs knew about England in 1050. Funny how progress goes in fits and starts. The Near East knew plenty about England and vice-versa during the Roman Empire (much of both places was in said empire), but it all came unraveled and much was lost.
4 posted on 06/06/2004 5:49:25 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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5 posted on 06/06/2004 5:49:57 PM PDT by Lady Jag (Was sciencediet till I found the solution)
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To: blam
It reflects the achievements of the classical age of Islamic civilisation and gives an unrivalled picture of the relationship between east and west in that period.

Too bad it doesn't seem to have progressed much beyond that time. (1050 AD)

6 posted on 06/06/2004 5:50:38 PM PDT by SuziQ (Bush in 2004/Because we Must!!! (Bombard))
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To: Lady Jag

Well, I guess I asked for that one. LOLROFRFI!


7 posted on 06/06/2004 5:50:56 PM PDT by Petronski (Some leftists find Bush's very existence to be a "constant oppressive force in their daily psyche.")
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To: blam

Map making was at its low point in AD 1000. It began to make a comeback with the portolans the merchants made. The Turkish Navy was good with maps until it took on Malta, and we hope to see some of the Chinese maps from their heyday. Of course our usual request to see images applies.


8 posted on 06/06/2004 5:51:03 PM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: blam

Is this a yoke?


9 posted on 06/06/2004 5:51:05 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Petronski

Don't be silly, they didn't have photography in those days.


10 posted on 06/06/2004 5:51:08 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

Well I guess I had that coming too.


11 posted on 06/06/2004 5:51:57 PM PDT by Petronski (Some leftists find Bush's very existence to be a "constant oppressive force in their daily psyche.")
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To: blam

Fried, Scrambled, Poached or as a burrito-like Omlet?


12 posted on 06/06/2004 5:53:14 PM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: blam; dighton; general_re
The unique and, until now, unseen map
13 posted on 06/06/2004 5:53:49 PM PDT by aculeus
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LMAO!! Never saw that one coming, did ya!

Gawd, I love FReeper wit!

14 posted on 06/06/2004 5:54:11 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual. If they sense scorn and ridicule, they'll flee..)
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To: blam
A previously unknown medieval Arabic map with the earliest representation of an identified 'England' ... It reflects the achievements of the classical age of Islamic civilisation

Multicultural revisionism. So what? Who cares if the Arabs depicted Britain as an island in the 12th century? The Emperor Claudius conquered Britain way back in 42 BC and annexed into the Roman Empire even. The Romans (dead white Europeans, and therefore no longer a part of the the progress of Western civilization -- they seemingly only represent slavery, death, and oppression in the new PC world of history) were clearly aware of Britain's island status. Indeed they were aware of the island status of Ireland too. It was Agricola who said Ireland could be conquered with only one legion. I'm sure that Britain as an island appeared on numerous Roman maps -- it's just that none of them survived (that we know of).

15 posted on 06/06/2004 5:54:24 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls

Correction -- that should be 43 AD, not BC.


16 posted on 06/06/2004 5:55:29 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: small voice in the wilderness
I didn't know he meant hen's eggs. That's different.

;O)

17 posted on 06/06/2004 5:56:19 PM PDT by Petronski (Some leftists find Bush's very existence to be a "constant oppressive force in their daily psyche.")
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To: aculeus
The unique and, until now, unseen map

And still unseen. Guess I'll have to toddle over to merry old England for a look-see.

18 posted on 06/06/2004 5:57:13 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Pax quaeritur bello (Latine loqui coactus sum))
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19 posted on 06/06/2004 5:57:16 PM PDT by mikrofon (Rest in Peace, President Reagan)
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To: FreedomCalls

No one is slighting Italian contributions to science in this exhibition, even if it gets mentioned MMMCDXII times.


20 posted on 06/06/2004 5:57:17 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad (Rising waves, what motive is behind your impulse? The desire to reach upwards.)
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