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The Mystery Of The Voynich Manuscript (New)
Scientific American ^ | 6-28-2004 | Gordon Rugg

Posted on 06/27/2004 6:33:08 PM PDT by blam

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To: gdc314
The Rongorongo Of Easter Island


21 posted on 06/27/2004 8:08:54 PM PDT by blam
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To: gdc314

The only other undeciphered script is that of the Indus river civilization, I believe...Mohenjo-Daro and whatnot. I forget what it's called.

We can read Etruscan in terms of speaking it, but we don't know what the words mean, I think.


22 posted on 06/27/2004 8:15:50 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Shooter 2.5

btt


23 posted on 06/27/2004 8:17:19 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems.)
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To: Strategerist
The Indus Script


24 posted on 06/27/2004 8:24:49 PM PDT by blam
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To: Strategerist
Ancient Indus Valley Script


25 posted on 06/27/2004 8:29:38 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Cool link...thanks,
gdc314


26 posted on 06/27/2004 8:31:59 PM PDT by gdc314
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To: blam

"Eat More Chicken"


27 posted on 06/27/2004 8:34:51 PM PDT by catpuppy (John Kerry! When hair is all that matters)
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To: blam
Allow me to summarize:

Voynich Manuscript, SAN 1/1d4, Cthulhu Mythos, 2% Spell Multiplier x2.

You're welcome.

28 posted on 06/27/2004 8:35:31 PM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: blam
Likewise from December 2003.

Pictures of the manuscript. (Some links from Google have been hijacked.)

29 posted on 06/27/2004 8:38:04 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: blam

The statistics of the Voynich manuscript do not match any known language or language type. There is the possiblity that a grill (such as described in the SA article) is the key in another way. One could construct such a manuscript (containing actual information) by filling in a grill with text and then adding junk around it. The junk would wipe out all the statistics normally associated with text.


30 posted on 06/27/2004 8:41:11 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

Excellent pictures, thanks.


31 posted on 06/27/2004 8:56:21 PM PDT by blam
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To: gcruse

You are really reaching,
WAY out.
Preconceptions can be a bitch.
They make it easy to ignore new stuff...
Try just to just consider what's presented.

We make progress by continuously asking questions,
this entire article is a question leading to ONE possible conclusion out of many.

Be thankful for the effort and watch for any results.


32 posted on 06/27/2004 8:58:57 PM PDT by norton
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To: blam

It's at Yale. You dummies never heard of Skull And Bones?? DUH! Some initiate probably left his copy at the library and some professor found it.


33 posted on 06/27/2004 9:07:07 PM PDT by bayourod (Can the 9/11 Commission connect the dots on Iraq or do they require a 3-D picture?)
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To: norton

The notion that complexity equates to intelligence is ridiculous. As I say, it's creationist (wishful) thinking.


34 posted on 06/27/2004 9:09:08 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: ScottFromSpokane
"An example from folio 78R of the manuscript reads: qokedy qokedy dal qokedy qokedy. I had a car that sounded like that."

My first reaction was "(BS)(BS) equals BS Squared.
Which would fit nicely only if "BS" equaled "squared".
So much for great minds....

My truck usually goes "tickety tickety ping tickity, followed by a brief silence and repeat up to about 50, then it settles into a bone jarring resonance that totally disables cell-phones and most dental amalgam.

I'm on record as wanting to give the author a chance to prove his case. Heck, I'm still waiting for a reasonable explanation for Waco, or why anyone capable of mastering shoelace 101 would vote for a Kennedy; A hoax seems most likely (darn it) and someone is trying to narrow the alternatives - more power to him.

35 posted on 06/27/2004 9:10:26 PM PDT by norton
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To: blam
but it does bolster the long-held theory that an English adventurer named Edward Kelley may have concocted the document to defraud Rudolph II. (The emperor reportedly paid a sum of 600 ducats--equivalent to about $50,000 today--for the manuscript.)

Its possible, but considering how expensive it was to manufacture a book at that time, a hoaxer would not have made much profit. If this was profitable, why not write a sequel?

36 posted on 06/27/2004 9:10:47 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Joee

No, I found that in 1959 in the shadow of Weaver's Needle at 4:00 PM on December 15. However, I lost may way on my way out of the Superstitions and, suffering from thirst induced amnesia, forgot its location.


37 posted on 06/27/2004 9:23:13 PM PDT by JimSEA ( "More Bush, Less Taxes.")
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38 posted on 06/27/2004 9:33:10 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Good one! I was born and raised in Superior, Arizona, at the edge of the Superstition Mountains. You could clearly see Weaver's Needle sticking up in the middle of the range. Of course, along with my friends, I looked for the Lost Dutchman along with other myths (somewhere near the Silver King mine there was reported to be a boulder of native silver as high as a house!). There were a lot of nuts chasing after the gold of the Dutchman and shooting at each other.

The true story of the founding of the Silver King mine is a good one. It seems that a man named Sullivan was in the Army, working on building a road up the "Stoneman Grade" near the site of the to be discovered Silver King. Seeing some caeyotes, he picked up a rock to throw. However, the rock was very heavy and powdery black. Sullivan put it in his pocket instead of throwing it.

Sometime later in Florence, he showed the rock to to an assayer who said it was worthless but asked where it had been found. Sullivan told him. As a result, a group from Florence found the Silver King -- after some trouble with Apaches. Sullivan, after getting out of the Army, ended up working as a day's pay miner in the Silver King -- the mine he discovered.

39 posted on 06/28/2004 6:14:16 AM PDT by JimSEA ( "More Bush, Less Taxes.")
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"Sullivan, after getting out of the Army, ended up working as a day's pay miner in the Silver King -- the mine he discovered."

Interesting story, thanks.

40 posted on 06/28/2004 7:37:22 AM PDT by blam
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