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'Hillbilly Armor'
Newsweek ^
| Dec. 20 issue
| Michael Hirsh, John Barry and Babak Dehghanpisheh
Posted on 12/17/2004 10:43:16 AM PST by presidio9
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To: Chode
Great shots of the "gun trucks". The guys at our base in Phu Bai used to make monthly runs to escort (thin skinned) convoys to and from Danang through the Hai Van pass (and came under fire every time). There were a number of Democrats and RINO Republicans who could have expressed concern, and wept crocodile tears, for us, but they just didn't seem to give a d*mn.
To: presidio9
To: pawdoggie
Lots of ASA guys myself included remember the gun trucks that ran outta Phu Bai. If I'm not mistaken that included "Eve of Destruction" which is now on static display at theFt Eustis museum.
I've seen scattered reports that transportation corps drivers are currently building gun trucks in Iraq in much the same way they were in Nam.
My favorite was the quad fifty.
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posted on
12/17/2004 12:27:14 PM PST
by
FRMAG
To: archy; river rat; Squantos; tet68; CIBvet; Chapita
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posted on
12/17/2004 12:29:42 PM PST
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: Travis McGee
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posted on
12/17/2004 12:36:09 PM PST
by
68 grunt
(3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
To: pawdoggie
typical congresscritters, something about "Necessity is..." comes to mind
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posted on
12/17/2004 12:39:24 PM PST
by
Chode
(American Hedonist ©® - Dubya... F**K YEAH!!!)
To: presidio9
It's great that the Humvee's are getting armor. But there is one thing that I don't think has been pointed out to public by the press or our Government.
The Humvee was not designed as an Armored Personal Carrier.
It was designed to replace the Jeep. To carry more equipment than the Jeep. To be Enclosed, unlike the Jeep which was open.
Yes there were some items made to protect the soldiers inside the Humvee. But it was not designed to take a hit from an RPG nor a mine.
Those are the jobs of the Strikers or APC.
I am sure a Freeper can explain in more detail than I can. As I am only a layperson.
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posted on
12/17/2004 1:08:39 PM PST
by
husky ed
(FOX NEWS ALERT "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead" THIS HAS BEEN A FOX NEWS ALERT)
To: husky ed
The Humvee was not designed as an Armored Personal Carrier. It was designed to replace the Jeep. To carry more equipment than the Jeep. To be Enclosed, unlike the Jeep which was open. Yes there were some items made to protect the soldiers inside the Humvee. But it was not designed to take a hit from an RPG nor a mine. Those are the jobs of the Strikers or APC. I am sure a Freeper can explain in more detail than I can. As I am only a layperson.The phrase you're looking for is "Battlefield taxi." You are correct, the humvee was not designed to be a battlefield taxi. It was designed for maximum maneuverability and the ability to follow the armor.
The Bradley is a decent battlefield taxi, although it is frequently used as a light tank. The M113 is a lousy battlefield taxi, IMHO. The Stryker is worse.
The biggest problem is that our long-term logistics planners are still clinging to the idea of a linear battlefield in which there are "safe" rear areas for light-skinned vehicles to operate. There is no such thing. We need to up-armor the Humvees as a stopgap measure, but the real answer is that we need an *armored* cargo hauling vehicle.
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posted on
12/17/2004 1:18:05 PM PST
by
Terabitten
(Proud member of the Free Republic wolfpack)
To: Travis McGee
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posted on
12/17/2004 2:14:05 PM PST
by
Chapita
(There are none so blind as those who refuse to see! Santana)
To: Tragically Single
Thanks for the correction. That was the term I was looking for.
If the people demand that our soldiers be protected from the terrorist. Then the Military is going to have to start building APC's like M1's to carry them.
Of course then they'll all scream about the cost of the thing. The bastards.
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posted on
12/17/2004 2:26:43 PM PST
by
husky ed
(FOX NEWS ALERT "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead" THIS HAS BEEN A FOX NEWS ALERT)
To: Chode
Loved those shots,I always liked having a coupla of those gunships in a convoy I was in.
Partial to the quad 50 truck tho.That thing could bring pee,as we used to say in Quang Tri.
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posted on
12/17/2004 2:43:26 PM PST
by
tnfarmer
(4 more yrs,yee ha.)
To: TXnMA
That's a Command and Control Boat. The B-17 prop is just tarp rigged to provide a place to hang out in the rain. It's hanging on the aerial guy wires. Here's pic of a monitor
These boats are part of a River Assault Group (RAG). The RAGs were originally set up to work with the 9ID as a combined Army/Navy operations in the southern delta. The PBRs and the Swifties got the headlines, these boats did a lot of the heavy lifting.
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posted on
12/17/2004 2:49:25 PM PST
by
ProudVet77
(Beer - It's not just for breakfast anymore.)
To: tnfarmer
no doubt... 4 x .50 will put the damn damn on most anything!!! 8^)
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posted on
12/17/2004 3:25:01 PM PST
by
Chode
(American Hedonist ©® - Dubya... F**K YEAH!!!)
To: BobinIL
"I think that guy on the back of that boat is taking a leak!"
Hey, isn't the John Kerry????
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posted on
12/17/2004 4:09:50 PM PST
by
Owl558
(Don't tread on me!)
To: ArrogantBustard
Yep!
"Stars and Stripes"
"Stars and Bars"
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posted on
12/17/2004 4:17:40 PM PST
by
jimthewiz
(An armed society is a polite society)
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