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Global warming, not asteroid, cause of extinction?
c|net news.com ^ | 1/20/2005 | Michael Kanellos

Posted on 01/21/2005 7:09:59 AM PST by Zon

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To: TChris

Global warming? B.S. We already have record breaking cold weather, one of the coldest years recorded, more rain and snow. If anything, the ice caps will probably grow this year because of the colder yearly climate over all.
Just wait till spring. We are going to have flooding like we have never seen before, due in part to the ground having been saterated at freeze up, water tables at their max levels, and 10 times more snow than normal, with much more yet to fall. There is nowhere for this water to go.
Because the ground was saturated at freeze up, the frost and ice is deep into the soil, which is going to take much longer to thaw. Areas more north will most likely see a growth further to the south of the permafrost. If We have another below average cold summer season, the polar ice caps will no doubt grow. Another cause of this will be because of all this water we will have this spring, with flows north diluting the salinity of the arctic waters, which will then freeze at a higher temperature.
All the "save the polarbear" groups will be out of luck trying to suck people out of their money.


21 posted on 01/21/2005 7:38:04 AM PST by Nuzcruizer
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To: Zon

An ant digging an ant hill cannot affect the global temperature. The environmentalist think they are the supreme being when, as was just demonstrated by the 9.1 earthquake, the cycles of the earth will continue to do as they have done and are intended to do. If it was an oxygen problem that why did not 100% of life vanish? Why did mammals survive when they are the prime users of oxygen?


22 posted on 01/21/2005 7:38:05 AM PST by YOUGOTIT
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To: YOUGOTIT
Why did mammals survive when they are the prime users of oxygen?

At the time of the Permian extinction mammals hadn't evolved yet, so there weren't any.

23 posted on 01/21/2005 7:39:21 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: YOUGOTIT

I've yet to meet any animal (lizards, birds, earthworms) that don't breathe oxygen, so I don't get your point. I've also yet to meet a plant that doesn't breath carbon dioxide, so lack of O-2 would only indicate an imbalance of plants vs. animals. 100% oxygen deprivation on a planetary scale is impossible.


24 posted on 01/21/2005 7:43:07 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (© 2004, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Zon
This is the Permian Extinction, which precedes dinosaurs.

Characteristic strata/fossils in Eastern Kansas.

I think the evidence shows that something poisoned the ocean, which then wrecked the atmosphere.

The statement Later, the Permian creatures were reincarnated as Texas crude oil. is probably not true.

25 posted on 01/21/2005 7:45:53 AM PST by JohnCliftn
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The statement Later, the Permian creatures were reincarnated as Texas crude oil. is probably not true.

People seem to be fixated on the idea oil is from dead animals, I've noticed.

It's actually from microscopic marine algae, of course. But people don't really have a tangible conception of "microscopic marine algae."

26 posted on 01/21/2005 7:48:42 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: Zon

It's kind'a difficult to ignore the damn big hole in the Carribean, isn't it? Or do they have to actually fall in to recognize a 'hole'. How 'bout the associated Iridium anomaly?


27 posted on 01/21/2005 7:51:36 AM PST by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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To: Zon
In the 40's they taught us the dinosaur died out because he was stupid.

A while back they claimed an meteor did them in.

Now they tell me the earth got hot and cooked them.

Wake me in a few years, when "they" are dead and gone.

28 posted on 01/21/2005 7:52:46 AM PST by G.Mason (A war mongering, UN hating, military industrial complex loving, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: JohnCliftn

Oil is made mostly of plant material, not creatures. it's actually a renewable resource, it just takes a few million years. I have a developing oil field right in my back yard. 80 aces of peat bog which gets thicker every year. eventually it will get buried and in a few million years It will be ready to drill. Or it can turn into a natural gas field first. Right now it a great duck hunting and deer area. :o)


29 posted on 01/21/2005 7:54:30 AM PST by Nuzcruizer
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To: TomGuy
Of course it wasn't the SUV's. It was due to their hairspray.
30 posted on 01/21/2005 7:55:54 AM PST by skimbell
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To: Zon

Could someone checkout the statement that 16% oxygen is the equivalent to being at 14,000 feet? I seem to recall that around 18,000 feet the partial pressure of oxygen is about 50% of normal or the equivalent of 10% oxygen. It's the same percentage of oxygen(20%), just the atmospheric pressure is about half that of sea level.


31 posted on 01/21/2005 7:57:15 AM PST by Techster
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To: Nuzcruizer

Changing World Technologies has a process for doing the same thing real time. Convert any hydrocarbon material into oil and other petroleum products. http://www.changingworldtech.com/


32 posted on 01/21/2005 8:02:08 AM PST by Techster
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To: Zon
Maybe the dinosaurs had set up sweatshop factories and drove non-emission controlled cars millions of years ago. As everyone knows, global warming cannot be a natural occurrence.
33 posted on 01/21/2005 8:05:49 AM PST by irishtenor (If stupidity were painful, the Democrats would NEED paid health care...)
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To: dhuffman@awod.com

huffman, the post is about the mass extinction in the Triassic, not the "death of the dinosaurs" - which does indeed seem to be linked to that very very big crater (Chixlylub astrobleme?) and the iridium layer at the 65-my layer world wide.

Cincinnatus is right on top of this, as usual.


34 posted on 01/21/2005 8:06:27 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: G.Mason
Now they tell me the earth got hot and cooked them.

Sigh. Might want to read the article. This is the PERMIAN extinction, which was long before the Cretaceous Extinction that wiped out the dinosaurs. There weren't any dinosaurs in the Permian.

35 posted on 01/21/2005 8:07:09 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: Nuzcruizer

Your peat bog is going to become a bed of coal eventually; not oil.


36 posted on 01/21/2005 8:07:45 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

Most vertebrate survivors of the Permian extinction were mammal-like reptiles, protomammals named Therapsida, which were warm-blooded, often furry, and showed evidence of a most unreptilian higher metabolism. In the early Triassic, they rapidly diversified and became the dominant carnivores and herbivores in the lush, fern- and conifer-rich floodplains. Some 80 percent of the large vertebrate fossils we find from the early Triassic period are therapsids.


37 posted on 01/21/2005 8:08:59 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Techster

I know-Thermo-depolymerization. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/11/1125_031125_turkeyoil.html

It's a feasable process that can solve alot of waste problems at the same time, especially material that rendering plants can no longer put into animal feed.


38 posted on 01/21/2005 8:13:52 AM PST by Nuzcruizer
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To: Strategerist
Your peat bog is going to become a bed of coal eventually; not oil.

That depends on other factors. Coal isn't likely because the tameracs shed tons of needles into the mix, which have alot of oil in them. It's not likely to make it that far into the future if I have any say about it. Peat sells well. In the summer people come and give me money, dig it up for their lawns and gardens.

39 posted on 01/21/2005 8:20:30 AM PST by Nuzcruizer
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To: Zon
Two hundred and fifty million years ago, the majority of life on earth may have suffocated after being hit by a giant comet from Aldebaran made entirely of Belgian chocolate.

..fill in the gruesome details...

40 posted on 01/21/2005 8:43:15 AM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen, ignorance and stupidity.)
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