An artistic representation of the extinct Straight-tusked Elephant (Palaeoloxodon antiquus)
Posted on 01/23/2005 3:16:48 PM PST by blam
Where did you hear that? (Some scientists think Neandertals never existed.) Tell us more.
"..There are some scientists who don't think Neanderthals really existed...."
The bones weren't there? They were there but not H. neandertalensis?
Can you cite a ref?
Dupe.
Haven't mastered posting yet.
I'll try to find it tomorrow. It was a show on one of the science programs, maybe Nova.
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A motorist from Great Wakering has died in a road crash when his car collided head-on with another.
Luciano Giardino, 37, of Seaview Drive, was driving his Vauxhall Astra on the A130 at Barnston, Dunmow at 8.30am on Wednesday.
While driving from Chelmsford towards Dunmow his white Astra collided with a green Jaguar driven by a 57-year-old from Saffron Walden driven in the opposite direction.
Mr Giardino was certified dead at the scene.
The driver of the Jaguar was taken by ambulance to Broomfield Hospital with rib injuries.
Hidelbergenis and Homo Erectus are thought to be one and the same by many scientists. Because of the paucity of remains found, they cannot be sure,nor can they be sure that the remains are of the people who actually made the tools. Homo Erectus has been found over most of Europe, Asia and Africa. Remains have been found that date up to 10,000 years before present, side by side with Cro-magnan and Neanderthals. Homo Erectus has a skeleton that is human in every way,slightly smaller cranium, and dates back to about 500,000 years before present depending on who you are talking too. A Homo Erectus Skeleton found at Turkana, well here is a quote from a book about Archeology:
The most famous of the Homo erectus specimens found in Africa is the fossil of "Narikotome Homo erectus ," or the "Turkana Boy," which was found near Lake Turkana in Kenya. It is confirmed that the fossil was that of a 12-year-old boy, who would have been 1.83 meters tall in adolescence. The upright skeletal structure of the fossil is no different from that of modern man. The American paleoanthropologist Alan Walker said that he doubted that "the average pathologist could tell the difference between the fossil skeleton and that of a modern human."
So, many different takes on the remains found over the world and in England. If you find a part of a skull and some teeth you can hardly base a theory on them, or even really project how the species looked or were formed. This happens all too often and should be taken with a grain of salt. Until they find more remains, more bones, then they are just speculating as to what/who these people were.
Sorry if I rambled on here but I am fasinated about this subject and do a lot of reading on it. Thanks for letting me talk.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/2902neanderthals.html
There's an argument whether Neanderthals were early humans or not human. It's always interesting when scientists disagree.
They were Homo...that's our genus.
I think the underlying question was if they could breed with H. sap, making them the same species.
The correct answer is we don't know yet.
"....It's always interesting when scientists disagree."
Normal state of affairs. It's interesting to us, too. That's how we make progress.
That's what makes science exciting.
What the H* is a stanley knife???
What I find interesting is what that FIRST generation of cro magnan did...it THOUGHT, drew pictures, marked its tools for ownership or craftsmanship, drew pictures on its bowls and other utensils, decorated itself with feathers and so on...and had awarenes of death.
There had to have been geniuses who really wondered "What the heck is it all about?"
There were the Michael Moores and Ted "Hic!" Kennedys too. Lol.
I'm sure there are.
There are many folks who still don't believe that Neil Armstrong walked on the moon.
The Democrats still think that they are in power.
Denial is rampant in the world -- relative morality's kissin' cousin.
An artistic representation of the extinct Straight-tusked Elephant (Palaeoloxodon antiquus)
A Gentleman's English Dictionary and Usage
Stanley knife
The 'Stanley' knife, known to Americans as the more prosaic 'Box Cutter', has become favoured for it's ability to cause horrific looking injuries and unpleasant scarring with little or no possibility of actual death.
Me too, thanks for the input. Read this book, Out Of Eden by Stephen Oppenheimer.
Read this: The Neanderthal Theory
The part I can't handle is that they seem to have decided that these people were incapable of developing independant and different technologies to accomplish similar tasks. I don't think they need to be different species to accomplish the same basic tasks using different technologies.
Oh I get it.
In general, these box cutters are manufactured by the STANLEY TOOL COMPANY and have "stanley" stamped on the side. Hence, they are called a stanley knife.
But what about all those screw drivers and plyers and measuring tapes out there that are also made by stanley? Do they also call those stanley screw drivers, stanley plyers, and stanley tapes?
"What the H* is a stanley knife???"
Something the early scientists used to defend themselves from ax wielding neanderthals.
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