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Frist: Gov't Unwanted in End-Of-Life Cases
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Posted on 01/29/2006 10:06:22 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Thanks for providing the link that proves Frist didn't lie. That's nowhere close to a diagnosis. It's very similar to the tone my own doctor took when explaining that I needed further tests to determine if I had cancer. I didn't accept his advice as a diagnosis and begin chemotherapy and radiation. I got the tests he recommended. Terri wasn't allowed to get the tests that were recommended by Frist and so many others.
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posted on
01/29/2006 2:08:12 PM PST
by
BykrBayb
(Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri <strike>Schiavo</strike> Schindler - www.terrisfight.org)
To: HairOfTheDog
I tried to engage you to give your point of view, but you just want to insult me...
You're insulted?
Good.
Now maybe you'll find someone else to post to.
To: BeforeISleep
You're an example of the immaturity and hysteria on your side of this debate.
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posted on
01/29/2006 2:23:52 PM PST
by
HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
just can't help yourself can you...
To: BeforeISleep
Help me out here... I can tell you have something you want to say, I just don't know what it is.
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posted on
01/29/2006 2:28:44 PM PST
by
HairOfTheDog
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To: Appalled but Not Surprised
Sometimes the will of the People is evil, and the job of a just goverment is to turn away that evil will and do what is just, regardless.Especially because bystanders are usually dragged into the supposedly private/family decision.
That happens because, whenever one person or group is guaranteed "rights," another group or person gets obligations to enforce or carry out those "rights." The people who are asked to enforce or carry out those "rights" may believe they are forced to act against their consciences.
- Pharmacists are told they must distribute "morning after pills."
- Police are told they must make sure the starvation of a brain damaged patient is not interferred with*
- Med students are told they must learn to perform abortions
- Will Justices of the peace be told they must marry same sex couples?
* "[Nancy Cruzan, three days before her death from starvation] turned and looked at me and stared at me with a panicky look, sweating profusely, and the thought I had was, she was thinking, Oh, heres a policeman, hell help me. But we werent allowed to do that,"...Doug Seneker
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posted on
01/29/2006 3:28:07 PM PST
by
syriacus
(Help plan John Kerry's Fillet-Bluster at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1566194/posts)
To: syriacus
To: ContraryMary
So much for Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness
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posted on
01/29/2006 3:53:54 PM PST
by
mware
(The keeper of the I's once again.)
To: The Red Zone
I had to memorize lines from Goethe's eerie poem, Der Erlenkoenig in High school
Wer reitet so spaet durch Nacht und Wind?
Es ist der Vater mit seinem Kind.
Er hat den Knaben wohl in dem Arm,
Er fasst ihn sicher, er haelt ihn warm. [snip]
In seinen Armen das Kind war tot.
In the poem, the father keeps assuring his son that there is nothing to fear. In the end, his son is dead in his arms.
Felos's tongue-flicking assurances that Terri felt no pain were most likely untrue.
Felos not only made sure Terri died, he made sure she died in a horrible way.
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posted on
01/29/2006 3:58:13 PM PST
by
syriacus
(Help plan John Kerry's Fillet-Bluster at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1566194/posts)
To: Appalled but Not Surprised
Thank you. YOU get it.I heard someone mention a this idea on TV about 2 weeks ago. When some folks demand rights for themselves they are, in reality, placing obligations on others, even though they pretend the whole situation is private.
The attempts of the pro-deathers to drag in unwilling outsiders is nauseating.
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posted on
01/29/2006 4:03:33 PM PST
by
syriacus
(Help plan John Kerry's Fillet-Bluster at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1566194/posts)
To: NormsRevenge
I have been involved with dying patients since 1976.
Every single law or regulation passed since then (and they are, by now, innumerable) has made the situation worse.
Those who say, don't know and those who know, don't say.
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posted on
01/29/2006 4:05:38 PM PST
by
Jim Noble
(And you know what I'm talkin' 'bout)
To: NormsRevenge
The American people don't want you involved in these decisions. Word up!
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posted on
01/29/2006 4:05:42 PM PST
by
Drango
( No animals were harmed while producing this post)
To: ContraryMary
The government, in the form of a court, was already involved. What was wrong with giving the parents a say when the "husband" already had another life?
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posted on
01/29/2006 4:07:42 PM PST
by
DLfromthedesert
(Texas Cowboy...graduated to Glory)
To: ContraryMary
To: Almondjoy
Gee, so you think feeding is such a big advance in technology?
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posted on
01/29/2006 4:10:51 PM PST
by
DLfromthedesert
(Texas Cowboy...graduated to Glory)
To: Appalled but Not Surprised
Or go to present day Holland.
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posted on
01/29/2006 4:12:00 PM PST
by
DLfromthedesert
(Texas Cowboy...graduated to Glory)
To: HairOfTheDog
Did you tell that to the clueless judge who allowed the "husband" to starve this woman to death? It was not HER decision, or her parents, just someone who profited from her death.
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posted on
01/29/2006 4:14:46 PM PST
by
DLfromthedesert
(Texas Cowboy...graduated to Glory)
To: HairOfTheDog
If Schiavo had allowed her true family members to make the decision, it would have remained private.
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posted on
01/29/2006 4:17:22 PM PST
by
DLfromthedesert
(Texas Cowboy...graduated to Glory)
To: mware
So much for Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness My "Pursuit of Happiness" doesn't include being keep alive against my will.
To: HairOfTheDog
That would not happen in most cases; this was an unusual case because a stranger who called himself a husband did not defer to the people who really loved this woman.
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posted on
01/29/2006 4:24:07 PM PST
by
DLfromthedesert
(Texas Cowboy...graduated to Glory)
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