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Cold And Deep: Antarctica's Lake Vostok Has Two Big Neighbors
Science News Online ^ | 2-8-2006 | Sid Perkins

Posted on 02/08/2006 3:52:36 PM PST by blam

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I've been reading for years about different (proposed) ways of drilling into Vostok without contaminating the lake. Nothing agreed on yet.
1 posted on 02/08/2006 3:52:39 PM PST by blam
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To: RightWhale

Ping. You like this stuff.


2 posted on 02/08/2006 3:53:26 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

35 million years is a lot longer than I thought.


3 posted on 02/08/2006 3:54:41 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: blam

Drill with 9.1 brine water.

A couple of barrels of salt water ain't gonna do anything to a lack that big, even if you lost circulation.


4 posted on 02/08/2006 3:56:26 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: blam


...think Jimmy Hoffa is somewhere down there?


5 posted on 02/08/2006 4:00:53 PM PST by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President!)
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To: blam
I am not sure I am worried about contaminating the lake.

It might be a bigger problem, if we contaminate us.

6 posted on 02/08/2006 4:01:52 PM PST by patton (Just because you don't understand it, does not mean that it does not exist.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

all this talk is making me thirsty.


7 posted on 02/08/2006 4:02:15 PM PST by pipecorp (Let's have a CRUSADE! , the muslims never stopped. a 2010 useless reply odyssey.)
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To: blam
I happened to watch the Carpenter remake of The Thing last weekend -- my favorite sci-fi movie, BTW -- and this story has some eerie parallels. Be concerned...
8 posted on 02/08/2006 4:11:12 PM PST by WL-law
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all this talk is making me thirsty.

Antarctic stories always leave me cold.

9 posted on 02/08/2006 4:12:33 PM PST by Socratic
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To: blam

Old punch line: "Yeah, and it's deep too!"


10 posted on 02/08/2006 4:15:10 PM PST by llevrok (Drink your beer, damnit! There are sober people in Africa.)
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To: pipecorp

"These pretzels are making me thirsty..."


11 posted on 02/08/2006 4:18:52 PM PST by GRRRRR (Demokrats. Hitliary and the ACLU are the domestic enemy)
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To: blam

It would seem that there might be a lot of potential pressure under all that ice. Wouldn't breaching that cause a pretty impressive geyser?


12 posted on 02/08/2006 4:19:39 PM PST by Walkingfeather
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No:

You:(1) case the hole (metal piping as you go);(2) have what is called a pressure control stack on the surface (blow out preventers and a annular) in the event you become underbalanced; and (3) most importantly, you have a colum of drilling fluid of some kind weighing down the formation (lake, in this instance) . . water being the lightest, to brine (all you'd need here), or even some sort of heavier petroleum based mud.

Yes, I am a drilling engineer.


13 posted on 02/08/2006 4:24:19 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: blam

Why are these lakes warm enough to remain unfrozen when everything else in the neighborhood is frozen to the depth of 4km?


14 posted on 02/08/2006 4:25:50 PM PST by Capriole (The Anti-Feminist)
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To: blam

Isn't that basin where The Thing's spaceship crashed as shown in the movie?


15 posted on 02/08/2006 4:26:23 PM PST by pankot
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"Yeah, and it's deep too!"

and the bottom's sandy.

16 posted on 02/08/2006 4:26:27 PM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (Buy 'Allah' brand urinal cakes - If you can't kill the enemy at least you can piss on their god)
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"...or even some sort of heavier petroleum based mud."

Loaded with bacteria, germs and etc.

17 posted on 02/08/2006 4:27:12 PM PST by blam
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To: WL-law
the Carpenter remake of The Thing last weekend -- my favorite sci-fi movie, BTW

Too bad the real author, John W. Campbell Jr., never gets much credit for his original pulp story "Who Goes There?" It was in the great 1930s style of purple prose and bodice-ripping BEMs (Bug-Eyed Monsters) but Lordy I loved 'em!

The 1950s movie version did something revolutionary for the time. It only showed scary glimpses of the alien monster (aka 'Marshall' James Arness) and built suspense until the final confrontation when the Thing was at last revealed.

18 posted on 02/08/2006 4:28:40 PM PST by Bernard Marx (Don't make the mistake of interpreting my Civility as Servility)
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Why are these lakes warm enough to remain unfrozen when everything else in the neighborhood is frozen to the depth of 4km?

Heating from below; areas where the crust is thinner and you've got magma nearer the surface.

19 posted on 02/08/2006 4:35:57 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: MeanWestTexan

Use Bentonite with their density-improver Weight-it. at an Sg of 1.6, ought to work pretty well with a column like that!

Pro-mud polymer drilling fluid is fun stuff, too, but you have to run a Ph of 13 to make it really work, and to keep the density up.

However, arent' they just drilling ice? How do you restrain the casing fdrom moving ineither direction? I can't imagine there is much skin friction holding the string.


20 posted on 02/08/2006 4:36:51 PM PST by Toby06 (Hindsight alone is not wisdom, and second-guessing is not a strategy)
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