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Nevada gives legalized prostitution uneasy embrace
Yahoo!News ^ | February 13, 2006 | Adam Tanner

Posted on 02/13/2006 7:53:18 AM PST by mlc9852

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To: sandbar
"My point is that your argument is a religious perspective and laws governing a country should not be based a religious POV."

Did you know that a representative form of governing is used by Moses, which is mentioned in the Old Testament? Maybe we should abolish our representative government because some of the founders of this country wanted a government that was based on a religious POV.
181 posted on 02/14/2006 11:02:52 AM PST by ScubieNuc
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To: ScubieNuc
If you have the majority votes, your morality laws will be inacted. You or I may disagree with the law or its effectiveness but that doesn't make it wrong.

Nor does it make it implicity right, or implicitly proper---that's the very argument I'm trying to make. I think many who fear those who'd prefer to enforce their religious beliefs via law fear them because of this belief that might makes right, or because it can be done it should be done, or because---quite frankly---the resent those who feel entitled to occupy a moral high ground.

182 posted on 02/14/2006 11:06:43 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: ScubieNuc
As a Christian, or Buddist, or Atheist, or any other type of American, you and I have the right to advocate laws that we believe best benefits us and society. If you have the majority votes, your morality laws will be inacted. You or I may disagree with the law or its effectiveness but that doesn't make it wrong.

Actually, I believe that it does. If we have certain inalienable rights, then you or a Christian, Buddist or anyone else, has no right to impose their particular set of morals upon anyone else who is not causing harm to another. Were not the slavery laws or the denying of a womans right to vote in this country wrong? Tyranny of the majority is what it is called and it is most certainly wrong.

183 posted on 02/14/2006 11:42:21 AM PST by getsoutalive
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
"Nor does it make it implicity right, or implicitly proper---that's the very argument I'm trying to make."

On that, I can agree with you. Many laws (like seat belt or no smoking laws)probably aren't implicitly right.

" they resent those who feel entitled to occupy a moral high ground."

I understand what you are saying. However, that does cut both ways. It happens on probably every debate. Each side will have someone who assumes they have the high moral ground. In fact, I would bet the most ardent supporters of just about any topic, support it because they believe they have the high moral ground.
184 posted on 02/14/2006 1:15:09 PM PST by ScubieNuc
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To: Zack Nguyen

Homosex offends me.


185 posted on 02/14/2006 1:19:49 PM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: getsoutalive
Part of what I posted..."You or I may disagree with the law or its effectiveness but that doesn't make it wrong."

Part of your response..."Actually, I believe that it does.....Were not the slavery laws or the denying of a womans right to vote in this country wrong? Tyranny of the majority is what it is called and it is most certainly wrong."

Maybe what I should have said was that just because you or I don't agree with it, doesn't make it wrong.

Certainly, slavery and denying womens right to vote was wrong, but the American system has a way to overcome laws that are wrong. In my original objection on post #118 I was objecting to the bad comparison between the outcome of inforcing American laws and Taliban rule.

Plus you added this in the middle..."If we have certain inalienable rights, then you or a Christian, Buddist or anyone else, has no right to impose their particular set of morals upon anyone else who is not causing harm to another."

I'm not anywhere close to being a lawyer, but the phrase "inalienable rights" comes from the Declaration of Independence. The ones listed there are: life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness (originally, I read, that ownership of property was replaced by "pursuit of happiness" because of the slave issue.)

You have a point that if a Christian, Atheist, Buddist, etc. tried to pass a law that endangered your life or liberty, that would be wrong. However, I still disagree with the idea that others can't impose their morals on others. Fundamentally, all laws are imposing morals on everyone. (see post#179)

The last part of your statement, "...upon anyone who is not causing harm to another." is a debatable statement. I've heard that used to defend recreation use of drugs, sex between willing partners, etc. It get's turned on ones idea of what is harmful to individuals and societies.

Here again, my main point is that in the American system, all voices can be heard, and the majority (with checks and balances) can win out. This is still not the same as Taliban rule.
186 posted on 02/14/2006 1:49:05 PM PST by ScubieNuc
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To: mlc9852

Take it off the streets and make it clean and plenty!! Whooohoo!


187 posted on 11/06/2006 9:57:32 PM PST by Ode To Ted Kennedys Liver (Senate Republicans' Motto: Quit while you're ahead.|| Democrats' Motto: Going nowhere fast!)
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