Bay State exodus 2d only to N.Y

Boston Globe ^ | April 20th, 2006 | Stephanie Ebbert

[Do not dub me shapka broham]

Correct.

I think it was by one or two points, maybe less.

[acapesket]

I still hold out some hope for NH although they need to get rid of those two enviro whacko Rino reps who voted against ANWR drilling, Bass and Bradley.

I for one CANNOT wait to get out of MA, won't be long now!

[green iguana]

when a state (such as New Hampshire) experiences a population influx, that is not a "loss" of population in the N.E. States.

Actually the reporting was fine, for once... The two most populous NE states - Mass and Connecticut - both lost population. The other four gained. In sum however, NE still lost residents. That is a population loss for NE, but at a lower rate than in the 90's.

[HHKrepublican_2]

Out with the blue, in with the Red.

[thoughtomator]

I once told a job recruiter in MA that I would not take a job in his state because of its repulsive politics.

[Talking_Mouse]

I am one NYer who can not wait to shake the dust off my heels on my way to Florida on 4/28/06.

[Do not dub me shapka broham]

That's what it seems like, unfortunately.

As goes Maine, so goes Vermont...and Massachusetts, and now New Hampshire, evidently.

:(

Way too many Bobo, pseudo-Marxist exiles flooding in from Brooklyn and Massachusetts.

This never made any sense to me.

You fled these places specifically because they were high-tax, over-regulated, economically stagnant wastelands.

Why on earth would you want to replicate the same failed experiment that caused you to abandon those states in the first place?

Does that make any sense whatsoever?

[AuH2ORepublican]

"NH has same day voter registration, thousands upon thousands of college students from Boston and environs went up there on election day and committed voter fraud."

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I had never heard of that, and suspect it's just an urban legend. The NH counties most easily accessible to Boston residents, Hillsborough and Rockingham (which can be reached by I-91 and I-95, respectively, IIRC), saw a smaller percentage increase in voters from 2000 to 2004 than did the state as a whole. If anything, I suspect that Vermonters crossed over to New Hampshire to cast their votes in a more competitive state; Vermont's voter turnout only went up by 6% from 2000, and the counties along the VT-NH border saw higher increases in turnout than the average for NH.

[Do not dub me shapka broham]

I believe they have same-day registration for primaries, which explains John McCain's overwhelming victory in the NH primaries in the 2000 presidential election, although I didn't think that applied to the general election.

[Fedupwithit]

Not if I can help it....my grandparents (since 1952) and my parents (since 1975) have owned second homes in NH in the Lakes Region of the state, all staunch conservatives. The libs tried moving in a couple of years ago into their condos, and tried to start dictating how things should be.

Two of them have been run off, and we plan on running the last one off this summer...

Now I own a home, and I don't plan on welcoming any idiot libs anytime soon into the neighborhood..

: )

[Jim Verdolini]

"The quixotic Free State Project was a good idea, if not quite practical"

The problem was, 20,000 libertarians total could not overcome the progressive rot of 19,000 Mass refugees a year all expecting NH to be a socialist paradise only cheaper, then the one they fled.

[AuH2ORepublican]

"I believe they have same-day registration for primaries, which explains John McCain's overwhelming victory in the NH primaries in the 2000 presidential election"

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My understanding is that registered independents may decide on primary day whether to vote in the GOP or RAT primary, but they will then be registered with that party, and unless they affirmatively switch back to independent before the next primary they would only be allowed to vote in the primary in which they voted the prior time. A lot of people forget to reregister as independents, which is why the NH primary results always show John Kerry getting like 100 votes in the GOP primary and George W. Bush getting like 100 votes in the Democrat primary; independents who voted for McCain in 2000 but wanted to vote in the Democrat primary, and independents who voted for Gore or Bradley in 2000 but now support Bush, went to the polls to find out that they had forgotten to re-register as independents and thus could not vote in their preferred primary, and thus cast write-in votes for their favorite candidate from the other party.

I have no idea how voter registration for general elections works in New Hampshire.

[rattrap]

Nationally, the South remained the primary destination.

Yay... /s

[Dilbert San Diego]

This continues a long term trend of population loss in the northeast and midwest.

Mass. should see a big influx of gay residents since legalized gay marriage is so important to them. They should be moving there in droves because of the "tolerance" and "celebrate diversity". Apparrently it's not happening. Anybody know why not?

[Do not dub me shapka broham]

Yes, unfortunately.

I don't even think it's really caught on among libertarians, to be honest.

[longtermmemmory]

There should be a way to intimidate liberals into feeling uncofortable enough to stay in their little enclaves.

A flag pole in the front yard,
Eagle plaque over the garage,
Elephant in the front yard.

something to put them on notice conservatives of a conservative neighborhood.

[Labyrinthos]

Its because NY is SO DAMN EXPENSIVE! What this article doesn't really tell you too much is WHO is leaving, especially in New York: blue collar whites, Nuyoricans (going to Orlando and Pennsylvania), and middle class blacks (going to Atlanta).

While NY is expensive, that is not the reason people are leaving. I recently read (although I can't remember where), that while areas north of Saratoga and west of Albany are leaving in droves, the Hudson River Valley, NYC, and Long Island -- which are by far, the most expensive areas in the state to live -- had a net population gain. IMO people are leaving Utica, Syracuse, Rochester, Buffalo, Binghamtom and points in between not because they are expensive places to live, but because the decent paying jobs have disappeared or are on the way out. Why? Because the employers have been regulated and taxed out of business or to more business friendly climates by dysfunctional and/or corrupt political whores at all levels of government.

[TontoKowalski]

MY inlaws are leaving Mass for NH because of cost of living and taxes. But most are rats.

I'm sorry that it will seem as though I'm personalizing this... but 'Rats should be forced back into Massachusettes at gunpoint. They created that mess, and they should have to live with it or fix it.

It's like liberal New Englanders who move South to get away from all they've created, and then try their hardest to recreate the situation in their new home.

[Clemenza]

Very true. Upstate New York is becoming "the Big Empty."

The out-migration I spoke of is also being largely counterbalanced by a continued influx of the affluent, along with middle class legal immigrants. Yes, you still have illegals from the Dominican Republic and Central America (along with "visa overstayers" from Poland and Pakistan), but most of those seem to be going to Jersey these days where rents are cheaper.

[acapesket]

There were Mass plates all over Southern NH town halls.
It was quite well organized by Soros group, I will try and find my sources but too be honest, I am fairly computer illiterate, it was on the local boards and blogs as I recall.