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Moon Chemistry Confirms Violent Origin
SPACE.com ^ | 22 August 2006 | Jeanna Bryner

Posted on 08/23/2006 10:24:06 AM PDT by Boxen

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To: Joe Bonforte
If Earth collided with a Mars-sized planet, it's not clear to me how Earth could still have a near-circular orbit around the sun. I would think any such collision would seriously alter the orbit, perhaps even out of the plane of the ecliptic.

It doest have a near circular orbit. Also the earth's orbit is on a slightly different plane of most of the other planets. I think Pluto is the only other planet with a tilted orbit plane. Thank public schools for the dumbed down science books for thinking the orbit is circular.

The fact that the moon always faces the earth on one side and faces away on the other, should have been enough proof that it came from the earth, weather spit out from some huge explosion or a collision with a very large object.

21 posted on 08/23/2006 12:29:12 PM PDT by ItsTheMediaStupid
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To: Joe Bonforte
If Earth collided with a Mars-sized planet, it's not clear to me how Earth could still have a near-circular orbit around the sun. I would think any such collision would seriously alter the orbit, perhaps even out of the plane of the ecliptic.

It doest have a near circular orbit. Also the earth's orbit is on a slightly different plane of most of the other planets. I think Pluto is the only other planet with a tilted orbit plane. Thank public schools for the dumbed down science books for thinking the orbit is circular.

The fact that the moon always faces the earth on one side and faces away on the other, should have been enough proof that it came from the earth, weather spit out from some huge explosion or a collision with a very large object.

22 posted on 08/23/2006 12:30:35 PM PDT by ItsTheMediaStupid
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To: martin_fierro
Or else the moon has bones.

Dammit, Jim! I'm a doctor, not a moon shuttle conductor!

23 posted on 08/23/2006 12:32:34 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (I've had it with these &%#@* jihadis on these &%#@* planes!)
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To: DonaldC

If you look around the universe you will see various examples of rotating bodies. They are all aggregations of matter. They are in pretty well defined structures. Consider the rings of Saturn. As they aggregate and take on more mass they will become spherical and the unequal distribution causes wobbling that eventually stabaiizes as rotation.

The moon was once a ring of particulates flung out by the collision. Time and gravity collected the particles.


25 posted on 08/23/2006 12:44:43 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Keep watch for the Mahdi...... he's coming on 22 August!!)
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To: ItsTheMediaStupid
I think Pluto is the only other planet with a tilted orbit plane. Thank public schools for the dumbed down science books for thinking the orbit is circular.

Nope. The Earth orbit plane is defined by convention as at 0.00. All other planets are tilted, Mercury and Pluto being the most extreme.

26 posted on 08/23/2006 12:48:21 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Boxen

It's not a strong confirmation, but just a slight encouragement. The moon very likely came from the earth, but it was not a massive interplanetary collision--that is impossible.


27 posted on 08/23/2006 12:48:47 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: ItsTheMediaStupid
The fact that the moon always faces the earth on one side and faces away on the other, should have been enough proof that it came from the earth, weather spit out from some huge explosion or a collision with a very large object.

Not quite. The reason the Moon's rotation equals its period is something called tidal lock. Eventually (in about 50 billion years) the Earth would keep the same face to the Moon as well. However, solar physics dictates that the Sun will consume both prior to this event.

28 posted on 08/23/2006 12:51:51 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: DonaldC

The moon has five masscons, that is five regions of excess gravity where the density of the material is higher than the rest. That is about as lumpy as it can be since its gravity will otherwise make the body spheroidal. The earth also has masscons and is nearly spheroidal.


29 posted on 08/23/2006 12:52:24 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: RightWhale

Actually, the collision was massive (with an object that was about the size of Mars).


30 posted on 08/23/2006 12:53:01 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Boxen
Moon Chemistry Confirms Violent Origin

So the place was inhabited by evil white Europeans?

31 posted on 08/23/2006 12:54:12 PM PDT by Larry Lucido ("There's no problem so big that government intervention can't make it worse.")
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To: RadioAstronomer

Impossible. The simple answer is that the planet exploded. Eventually planets explode just like stars go nova. It's a phase change and happens in minutes. Earth may be good for yet another explosion although it is kind of small now for that kind of activity.


32 posted on 08/23/2006 12:56:43 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: Jonah Hex
While scientists have studied samples from the Moon’s near side, the far side and its polar regions have remained in the dark.

apparently you've never been kept in the dark about anything. :P

33 posted on 08/23/2006 12:57:56 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: RightWhale

I have to disagree. Exploding planets just does not make sense. Our planetary heat equilibrium is accomplished thru tectonic plate motion.


34 posted on 08/23/2006 1:14:28 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: LiteKeeper
I wonder what super-religious people would say if they found fossils on the moon?
35 posted on 08/23/2006 1:20:05 PM PDT by RC51
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To: cogitator

Info.


36 posted on 08/23/2006 1:22:44 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: RadioAstronomer

Here's something to consider: how is it that the recent particle recovery mission Stardust has captured particles that can be formed inside a planet at extreme heat and temperature but not by drifting dust? how can an asteroid that is too small to have any gravity differentiating show layers of material of definite composition?


37 posted on 08/23/2006 1:30:45 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: RadioAstronomer

Well doesn't that mean that all planets are in the same plane except Mecury, Earth, and Pluto? The same except those extremes.


38 posted on 08/23/2006 1:32:45 PM PDT by ItsTheMediaStupid
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To: RadioAstronomer
Not quite. The reason the Moon's rotation equals its period is something called tidal lock.

Total BS. Once in motion it will not stop. Look up Newton.

39 posted on 08/23/2006 1:34:50 PM PDT by ItsTheMediaStupid
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To: ItsTheMediaStupid
all planets are in the same plane except Mecury, Earth, and Pluto

Pick a coordinate system and stick to it. Since we are on earth most of the time, we pick earth's orbit as the zero-zero. If we were on Mars we would pick Mars' orbit as zero-zero. Or, we could pick the plane of the sun's equator, which until recently was not known as precisely as earth's orbit. Pick one.

40 posted on 08/23/2006 1:37:23 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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