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Treasures looted by (Ancient) Rome are back in the Holy Land(Jerusalem treasure mystery solved)
Times Online ^ | September 25, 2006 | Dalya Alberge

Posted on 09/26/2006 6:26:26 AM PDT by NYer

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41 posted on 09/26/2006 10:59:53 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: Thinkin' Gal

... and Belshazzar died that very night...


42 posted on 09/26/2006 11:00:18 AM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: NYer
A shameless fantasy and book-selling PR.

bejewelled Table of the Divine Presence

The 'Table' was not 'bejewelled'.

What treasures there were would have had to survive greedy Romans, Byzantines, and various other looters of Rome.

And those specific 'treasures', whatever they were, are not needed at all in the rebuilt Temple.

As an aside, the Menorah depicted on the Arch of Titus does not match the shape of the Menorah in the Temple.

43 posted on 09/26/2006 11:07:08 AM PDT by hlmencken3 (Originalist on the the 'general welfare' clause? No? NOT an originalist!)
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To: LukeL
Why do you think they need to rebuild the temple? God gave Israel 40 years to repent from this abomination and when they didn't He destroyed the temple.
44 posted on 09/26/2006 11:55:15 AM PDT by John 6.66=Mark of the Beast?
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To: Tennessean4Bush
The Jews never worshipped the temple.

Not on purpose, anyway...like Christians never worship their prosperity.

45 posted on 09/26/2006 11:59:54 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Ancesthntr
Uh, "WILL herald" is more like it - provided that the Catholic Church releases that which doesn't belong to it

We don't have it.

And never have.

Not 'bearing false witness against thy neighbor' is right up there with 'thou shalt not steal'

46 posted on 09/26/2006 12:05:52 PM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: AppyPappy
I regard my beliefs in keeping with Pharisaic Judaism. And I think Jesus did too.

Hyam Maccoby, Revolution In Judaea: Jesus and the Jewish Resistance

47 posted on 09/26/2006 12:11:46 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Oberon
Not on purpose, anyway...like Christians never worship their prosperity.

I'll certainly give you that.

48 posted on 09/26/2006 12:12:48 PM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (I would never belong to any club that would have someone like me as a member.)
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To: The G Man

Bill Clinton: "Hey! Maybe that treasure'll have some good lookin' mummies buried with it!"


49 posted on 09/26/2006 12:16:49 PM PDT by uglybiker (Don't look at me. I didn't make you stupid.)
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To: AppyPappy

The sects that you refer to were the non-religious and anti-religious groups, who had control of the political offices in the Temple, such as the high-priesthood. However the common people who revered and worshiped in the the temple were the religious Jews who followed the teachings of the Rabbis. The non-religious groups disappeared, they had no long-term staying power and were not interested in keeping up a Jewish facade when there was no longer any power positions for them to occupy. As for your remark about the third temple, it will be built by God after the coming of the Messiah, so it will have God's permanent protection.


50 posted on 09/26/2006 12:46:34 PM PDT by Doneel
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To: NYer
Metzuyyan me'od.
51 posted on 09/26/2006 12:50:56 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ('Ein ka'n "haskalah!")
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Glad to see that Groucho Marx is alive and well.


52 posted on 09/26/2006 1:00:44 PM PDT by jerryem (A Raghead is something on the end of a Dipstick.)
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To: LukeL
It is , and I am big on end times prophecy and know that all the prepartions for the rebuilding of the Temple are complete. They have all the supplies the high priests need to carry out the rituals. With these authentic artifacts it makes the case even stronger to start rebuilding. Although the Ark of the Covenant would probably be needed.

The thing is (as I understand it), the implements for the Temple can't be duplicated, so the implements that have been built ahead of time and stored in museums aren't kosher for use in the Temple. They will have to be built especially for use in the Temple and for no other purpose, which has to wait until Mashiach arrives and begins the process.

Then there's the problem of the vast majority of all Jews (all but the very youngest) being temei' metim (defiled by contact with dead bodies), a condition that can only be remedied by the mei niddah (made from the ashes of the Red Heifer), and these have to be mixed with the ashes of the previous heifer. It's a very complicated maze. Then there's the problem of having to have children raised in absolute purity in order to acquire water from the pool of Shiloach, for which no provision has yet been made (so far as I know).

The only thing we can be sure of is that G-d will be able to remove all these many difficulties so that the Holy Temple will indeed be rebuilt correctly in accordance to all the laws. This accomplishment will be a miraculous evidence that Mashiach has arrived and the Kingdom of G-d is here.

53 posted on 09/26/2006 1:00:47 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ('Ein ka'n "haskalah!")
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To: Lewite
The Nazarene (Natsarim) sect was not destroyed.

What group is that? Do you mean "Nazarite?" Samson and John the Baptizer were Nazarites.

54 posted on 09/26/2006 1:03:59 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Ancesthntr
Something tells me you're wasting your time trying to get through to "Appy Pappy."

The worship by chr*stians of statues, icons, holy places, and saints makes any claim of "temple-olatry" absolutely ludicrous and perhaps malicious.

55 posted on 09/26/2006 1:04:33 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ('Ein ka'n "haskalah!")
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To: AppyPappy
If you read the New Testament, you'll find the sects were fixated on Temple behavior.

The "new testament," of course, has about as much credibility as the koran.

56 posted on 09/26/2006 1:07:01 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ('Ein ka'n "haskalah!")
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To: in hoc signo vinces
Now wouldnt that be something...

Sure would ... the beginning of the end.

57 posted on 09/26/2006 1:10:00 PM PDT by Centurion2000 ("Be polite and courteous, but have a plan to KILL everybody you meet.")
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To: NYer
I understand that much of the (secular looted) treasure of Jerusalem was used to build the Coliseum and horse racing stadiums in Rome.
58 posted on 09/26/2006 1:12:08 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: NYer

On a related note, Hamas and Hizballah refused to recognize the treasure and vowed to push it all into the sea.


59 posted on 09/26/2006 1:12:49 PM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
A panel inside the Arch of Titus depicting a procession of Roman soldiers carrying off the table of showbread, trumpets and the seven-branched candlestick from the temple in Jerusalem:

And a TV camera on the far upper left.
60 posted on 09/26/2006 1:14:12 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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