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Ghost Cities Of 2100
Forbes ^ | 11 June 2007 | Elisabeth Eaves

Posted on 06/22/2007 12:18:28 AM PDT by Lorianne

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To: WashingtonSource; AuH2ORepublican

Newark may actually make a turn-around (although partly because of its proximity to NYC). Its current Mayor, Cory Booker, although a liberal, has seemed interested in attracting business and residents (contrasting with Stalinist racists like Coleman Young, who was happy to see every White person leave Detroit). When Booker previously ran for Mayor, the entrenched machine blasted him for being a “closet Republican.”


21 posted on 06/22/2007 5:46:26 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: hinckley buzzard; AuH2ORepublican

Cleveland and Baltimore are similar in that regard (might as well throw in New Orleans, as it now has effectively lost 2/3rds of its population, down from 600,000, along with the city my cousin once ran in the 1910s and 1920s, St. Louis, which had close to 1 million in the city, and now has just above 300k).

Youngstown has been trying a new approach, accepting the fact that it will never have the population it once did (between 150-200k). Whether it works is another story...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youngstown%2C_Ohio
http://www.youngstown2010.com/


22 posted on 06/22/2007 5:54:24 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I lived near Youngstown for 3 years(1994-97). The area was and still is a total sh-thole.


23 posted on 06/22/2007 6:16:21 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: darkangel82

I spent the night there once in 1988. Never got a wink of sleep. Haven’t been back since. But I still hope they can find a way to at least halt the decay and turn around what they have. I don’t like to root for a city’s complete death. Even with Detroit (and NOLA), at least it has all that magnificent architecture. If we could find enterprising people willing to go in and save that, it might be the seeds to turning the place around in the long term.


24 posted on 06/22/2007 6:33:11 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: fieldmarshaldj

yeah....
Youngstown used to be run by the mob, most of whom still live there, just in a certain federal government-run facility.


25 posted on 06/22/2007 6:38:09 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: darkangel82

Free Jim Traficant !

(Sorry, just had to get that out of the way).


26 posted on 06/22/2007 6:59:53 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Cory Booker is a good man, and he has never drunk the Kool-Aid served by urban liberal Democrats. I’m sure he will continue to work with the business community, refuse to engage in racial demagogery and maybe adopt school choice for students trapped in Newark’s failing-public-school monopoly. I think conservatives would be pleased if Booker were to eventually replace Congressman Payne in the Newark black-majority district, since his voting record would be far less liberal on economic issues than it would for other possible replacements. However, I fear that Booker may be thinking of even bigger things, such as the governorship or Senate seat, and perhaps the presidency.


27 posted on 06/25/2007 8:47:03 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: hinckley buzzard
One could add Cleveland to the list

I think Buffalo could be a candidate

28 posted on 06/25/2007 8:59:46 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

My concern, especially with all reformers in the Democrat party (to a lesser extent in the GOP) is that they eventually fall into the ideological and ethical straitjacket that permeates its rank and file members. No matter how high-minded you may be, you get corrupted and compromised, especially when you seek to move up. I’d find it highly doubtful that by the time he succeeded Don Payne that his voting record would be much different.


29 posted on 06/25/2007 6:08:28 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Well, I can tell you one thing, Cory would not be anti-Semitic. (Actually, I don’t know whether Payne is anti-Semitic, but it seems to be the norm for the most liberal members of the CBC.)


30 posted on 06/25/2007 6:14:25 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: WashingtonSource; durasell; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj
1. Newark is GAINING population, thanks to immigration. The 2000 census was the first since 1950 where the population increased. All of the growth is in the heavily Hispanic North and East wards, the latter of which is my father's old nabe.

2. Newark is in considerably better shape than Camden, Irvington, and Trenton. Also, unlike Jersey City, Newark actually has good restaurants.

31 posted on 06/25/2007 6:20:07 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: Lorianne

I’m curious to see how NYC ends up in the Geologic record.


32 posted on 06/25/2007 6:21:39 PM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (The Republican party of today is the Whig party of the 1850's.)
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To: Clemenza; AuH2ORepublican

My father briefly lived in Newark (from about 1967-69), probably one of a handful of non-White (and non-Italians) that chose to do so (but only because of a job offer from Prudential). He told me the story about the day he and his friend went out sailing on a certain April day in 1968, and they came back late at night and couldn’t figure out why the streets in downtown were eerily quiet... and then they found out MLK had been assassinated. He also told another story of going out on a walk and dodging a tv set tossed from a high-rise Black housing project... aimed at his head. He soon cleared out and moved to Manhattan.


33 posted on 06/25/2007 6:30:43 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: Lorianne
Detroit's population has fallen by around a third since 1950 and now equals about 950,000.

Detroit maxed out at over 2M - current population is about 835 thousand. That is more than a one-third loss. Rising sea levels threaten cities around the world.

Oh? Banjul, capital of Gambia in West Africa, is likely to sink entirely into the ocean due to a combination of erosion and rising sea levels, according to a 2002 World Bank discussion paper on cities and climate change. The same paper forecasts that sea levels will rise between 10 and 90 centimeters worldwide this century, affecting many coastal cities, including Alexandria, Egypt; Tianjin, China; Jakarta, Indonesia; and Bangkok, Thailand.

Oh, my. I can make a computer model to prove this prediction, for a price. Send money.

34 posted on 06/25/2007 6:33:25 PM PDT by patton (19yrs ... only 4,981yrs to go ;))
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To: fieldmarshaldj
My dad's old nabe remained OK as the Poles and Italians were replaced by the Portuguese beginning in the 1960s. Since the 1990s, the Portuguese have been replaced by the Brazillians and other South Americans. While there are some problems with overcrowding and some gangs, it is NOTHING compared to the hellholes that are the west(where Corey lives) and south wards (once heavily Jewish, now pure urban hell).

One of the nicer drives in Newark is around Branch Brook Park when the cherry blossoms bloom. With the old mansions and Sacred Heart Cathedral, its like going back to the gilded age.

35 posted on 06/25/2007 6:34:45 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: Clemenza

Camden is simply horrible. With the exception of the current Mayor of the past 7 years, Gwen Faison, almost every one of her predecessors of the past 35 years has gone to prison (Angelo J. Errichetti, Arnold Webster & Milton Milan, all predictably Democrats). It should be a prime location for revitalization and redevelopment across from Philly, but it’s poor reputation, staggeringly high crime, and that corruption has drastically hindered progress.

Trenton has also seemingly been stuck in the doldrums, and they’ve had the same political leadership for virtually 20 years (under Black rodent Doug Palmer), which also tends to inhibit progress.


36 posted on 06/25/2007 6:37:42 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: Clemenza

Hard to believe looking at these cities today, but Newark was a nice respectable Republican city until the 1940s and ‘50s. I wonder if we’ll ever be able to make them as great, safe, productive, and politically sane as they once used to be... :-\


37 posted on 06/25/2007 6:41:40 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: Lorianne
In the U.S., towns in Kansas and the Dakotas face extinction mainly because of an exodus of young people. Some Kansas towns are fighting back by giving away free land, with mixed results.

Free land?

Does this cover the yearly property taxes too?

38 posted on 06/25/2007 6:43:56 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: fieldmarshaldj
I live right next door to Trenton (in Lawrenceville, surrounded by Princeton Professors). Even Doug Palmer does not live in Trenton (he actually spends most of his time near Stockton in Hunterdon County). Were it not for the state legislature, every restaurant save the Kennedy Halal Fried Chicken or the Chinese take-out joints would close.

Interestingly enough, Christopher Smith's district takes in the Chambersburg section of Trenton. It doesn't produce many votes, as many, if not most of its inhabitants are illegals from Guatemala and Ecuador, and the powers that be don't want to share power, so registering the illegals, uh, illegally is out of the question for now.

39 posted on 06/25/2007 6:43:58 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: Lorianne
In the U.S., towns in Kansas and the Dakotas face extinction mainly because of an exodus of young people. Some Kansas towns are fighting back by giving away free land, with mixed results.

Mixed results?

That doesn't sound good.

40 posted on 06/25/2007 6:45:21 PM PDT by dragnet2
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