Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Famous fossil Lucy leaves Ethiopia (on a U.S. tour)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 8/6/07 | Anita Powell - ap

Posted on 08/06/2007 7:10:14 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-59 next last
To: 1riot1ranger; Action-America; Aggie Mama; Alkhin; Allegra; American72; antivenom; Antoninus II; ...

Houston PING


21 posted on 08/06/2007 7:51:02 PM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Coyoteman
I've a wider radius of experience than the whole lot of you put together

Granted, you live in an ulna universe.

22 posted on 08/06/2007 7:52:01 PM PDT by ASA Vet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Coyoteman
If we can have a break from the bone humor doc, I have a series question. In post one was stated: The Lucy exhibition at the Ethiopian Natural History Museum is a replica.

How do we know the touring Lucy isn't also a replica. I don't imagine they're going to let anyone actually touch or examine the exhibit. What's your thought?
Could you tell the difference just by sight?

23 posted on 08/06/2007 8:00:15 PM PDT by ASA Vet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: SunkenCiv

ggg ping


24 posted on 08/06/2007 8:03:38 PM PDT by To Hell With Poverty (For evil to win, it is only necessary for Jimmy Carter to be considered a role model.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LiteKeeper
What’s the attraction of seeing another set of monkey bones?

Because the monkey is extinct? There's a certain fascination with that. We wish we could see the real animal cavorting, but I guess this is the next best thing. Oh, yes, and there are those who believe that monkey is their grandma.

25 posted on 08/06/2007 8:12:32 PM PDT by Migraine (...diversity is great... until it happens to YOU...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: ASA Vet
How do we know the touring Lucy isn't also a replica.

I don't see anyone involved in this wishing to go to the slammer for felony fraud. They will be raising money from this, and would be criminally liable if this is a fake!

26 posted on 08/06/2007 8:14:45 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (A person who does not want the best for America)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: ASA Vet
How do we know the touring Lucy isn't also a replica. I don't imagine they're going to let anyone actually touch or examine the exhibit. What's your thought?
Could you tell the difference just by sight?

At the distance the observers will be at, probably not. The casts of fossil specimens are remarkably accurate--they have to be!

The vast majority of researchers who study these specimens do so from the casts. The only areas that differ in the specimens I have studied are the color and weight.

The color is generally quite close in the good casts, but look at the different colors in the various Mrs. Ples casts!

27 posted on 08/06/2007 8:27:27 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Migraine

Did you miss post 7?


28 posted on 08/06/2007 8:28:48 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Pray for the deliberately ignorant.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: NormsRevenge

How far away was Lucy’s kneebone (the central bone that made her different from monkeys) found away from the rest of the bones? About as far as my house from the nearest McDonalds?


29 posted on 08/06/2007 8:30:44 PM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: struggle

I’d have to check on that one. I’m a half mile away here myself if so.


30 posted on 08/06/2007 8:33:43 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Welcome to FR. The Virtual Boot Camp for 'infidels' in waiting)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: struggle
Neither Lucy nor her immediate ancestors were monkeys. Do you mean ape? Strange that you think a knee bone would differentiate her from being an ape seeings as how humans are still firmly ensconced within the ape clade. An ape with an upright knee is still an ape.
31 posted on 08/06/2007 8:34:42 PM PDT by allmendream
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: struggle
How far away was Lucy’s kneebone (the central bone that made her different from monkeys) found away from the rest of the bones? About as far as my house from the nearest McDonalds?

Another creationist lie. Here is the real story:

Claim CC003:

The knee of the "Lucy" fossil (the most complete Australopithecus afarensis fossil) was found over a mile away from the rest of the skeleton, so it cannot be used as evidence that Lucy walked upright. That evolutionists have never admitted this fact in print shows their dishonesty.

Source:

Willis, Tom. 1987. "'Lucy' goes to college," Bible-Science Newsletter (Oct.), 1-3. Morris, John D. 1989. Was 'Lucy' an ape-man? Back to Genesis 11b (Nov.). http://web.archive.org/web/20041011063219/http://www.icr.org/pubs/btg-b/btg-011b.htm

Response:

1. The claim is false. The skeleton called Lucy does not have an intact knee. A different, isolated knee fossil was found two to three kilometers away (Johanson and Edey 1981). Confusion over the two fossils apparently led to the false claim.

2. Far from indicating evolutionist dishonesty, this claim shows how creationists fail to check their claims (Lippard 1999).

But will creationists ever stop propagating that lie?

Nope. You are the latest victim of the creationist websites, whose main goal seems to be to gain believers, and donors, by deception.

32 posted on 08/06/2007 8:41:58 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: NormsRevenge

Keep Bill Clinton away from her. I really don’t need to know whether he’d be interested in “dating” a 3-million year old hominid.


33 posted on 08/06/2007 8:44:09 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ASA Vet

Don Johanson was a curator at the Cleveland Museum of Natural History when the bones were found. They were brought back to Cleveland and studied for a number of years before returning to Ethiopia. The museum owns the casting rights for specimens and I think the only other replica is in Ethiopia. I guess they don’t even display the real thing. I’ve seen the replica and they sure look old and ‘real,’ but I have never seen them side-by-side. So unless you picked them up, who would know?


34 posted on 08/06/2007 8:55:01 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: NormsRevenge
Famous fossil Lucy leaves Ethiopia (on a U.S. tour)

Is it true that she's touring with the Rolling Stones?

35 posted on 08/06/2007 9:01:58 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Right Wing Assault

We sure are suckers. We fund museums and their staffs to buy treasures which they lock away from the public. Only experts get to see the storerooms. It is fun to go behind the scenes, but not for the public.


36 posted on 08/06/2007 9:15:43 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: NormsRevenge

Keep Bill Clinton away from Lucy. He might attain his super horny mode like he did to that teenage mummy a few years back.


37 posted on 08/06/2007 9:27:16 PM PDT by CHEE
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ClaireSolt
We sure are suckers. We fund museums and their staffs to buy treasures which they lock away from the public. Only experts get to see the storerooms. It is fun to go behind the scenes, but not for the public.

Ever been in the famous rock art-bearing caves in Spain and France?

The effects of one or two visitors are negligible, but when its millions of visitors it adds up quick. Just the temperature and humidity changes from breathing endangers those fragile paintings.

Why do you think there are "Please don't walk on the lawn" signs in some heavily-trafficked areas?

Same reason you don't you walk all over flower beds.

38 posted on 08/06/2007 9:27:37 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: To Hell With Poverty; blam; FairOpinion; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; ...
Thanks To Hell With Poverty. I wonder where the rest of the Peanuts gang is now?

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list. Thanks.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on or off the
"Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list or GGG weekly digest
-- Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)

39 posted on 08/06/2007 9:57:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Monday, August 6, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Image and video hosting by TinyPic

40 posted on 08/06/2007 10:01:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Monday, August 6, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-59 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson