Posted on 10/11/2007 3:46:18 PM PDT by SJackson
No, all democrats. They condone the action of the far left and the institutions developed by them They are guilty by association. They go along for the ride and thus become as guilty as the leaders.
It is genocide and the entire world should acknowledge it as such, but legislators aren’t in the business of labels but of laws. The Democrats know exactly what they’re doing, daring the Republicans to vote against what could’ve been voted on the last time they were in power and when we weren’t at war.
“Turkey recalled its ambassador to the United States in response to a House resolution that uses the word ‘genocide.’”
I guess the truth hurts.
Another truth is that it was a bipartisan resolution.
Turkey needs us more than we need them. Shame on Bush for putting mollification of the Turkish government over doing the right thing.
“If you are a Democrat, you are the enemy.”
Did you notice how many Republicans were cosigners to this bipartisan resolution?
The fact is it’s a resolution that has been held up for many years, year after year, because we “don’t dare alienate the Turkish government” by acknowledging the truth.
Genocide was perpetrated by the Islamic government of Turkey upon 1.5 million Christian Armenians. It’s a very long overdue resolution.
“But why this controversy NOW?”
It’s a resolution that’s been coming up every year for decades and killed every year due to the reasoning that we must not alienate the Turkish government.
Congress finally has the votes, and they’ve got enough Republican cosponsors to pass it. It’s about time Turkey was called on it.
Besides, they need us much more than we need them. Without us, that government would be overrun by jihadists; so why placate them.
“Just why Congress is bring this up NOW is beyond me.”
As I told someone else on this thread, it’s a resolution that has come up every year for decades and always killed because our government didn’t want to offend Turkey by calling them on it.
But now they’ve got enough Republican and Democrat votes to pass it. I don’t care about possible motives of some of the Democrats. The point is it’s the right thing to do and it’s long overdue.
If the German government never admitted to the Holocaust, this country would be outraged and a resolution of this type would be widely supported. What I don’t understand is the double standard when it comes to Turkey.
Read “Unholy Alliance” by David Horowitz.
...How the “progressives” have aligned themselves with the Islamofascists.
I call the progressives socialists and communists. They want us to lose the WOT.
I'll bet it was a near party-line vote.
Of course what the Turks did was evil, but I think we all know that and we don’t need our politicians to officially declare every act that ever happened as good or bad. The Rats are doing this not to condemn the acts, but to try and get the Turks to alienate us so we can’t use their bases to get supplies to Iraq.
What was the breakdown of the votes by party?
“Wrong! Turkey is NOT the enemy here!”
I guess it depends on whose ox is gored, doesn’t it?
Turkey is no friend. The Turkish government has weaseled out of admitting to the genocide perpetrated against 1.5 million Christian Armenians for decades now. Why we’ve let them continue to do so is beyond me.
Speaking of weasels, Bush is one too for continuing to mollify them.
I don’t know the breakdown of votes in committee. But the resolution itself has 225 cosponsor, many of them, of course, Republicans (among them are Tancredo, LaHood, Wolf, Dreier, Herger, LaTourette, etc). If you go to Thomas.gov and type in H.Res. 106 under bill search, the list will come up.
The resolution is expected to come up next week for vote by the whole House.
Sursum Corda
“The Rats are doing this not to condemn the acts, but to try and get the Turks to alienate us so we can’t use their bases to get supplies to Iraq.”
Maybe that’s the motive of some. But many Republicans are cosponsors to this resolution, and the resolution has been brought up every year for many years, long before the war on terror even began. It was killed every time because of our government’s placating the Turkish government.
Turkey has always been given a pass, a pass that, for example, Germany would never have been given if they had tried to deny the Holocaust.
Amen!
Sursum Corda
“To me Armenia accepting this park defused the issue and the only thing a person bringing it up now is to get more money or power!”
Neither Armenia nor Armenians get any money or power from this nonbinding resolution. It’s a resolution simply acknowledging the genocide, which the Turkish government has always denied happened.
“Forget about Turkey as a supply route. We have a Navy and an Air Force that can get supplies in other ways.”
Um, wow. You do know that, apart from the supply routes, which are important, there are other reasons we’d like Turkey on our side, right?
I’ll name a few:
*Alienating Turkey in this fashion gives more power to the islamo-whacko government vis-a-vis the pro-American military and secular opposition. Not good for us.
*Alienating Turkey is more likely to drive Turkey to seek more amiable relations with Iran, if for no other reason than to piss us off. I know they haven’t been the best of pals in the past, but I’m sure they could get along if we aggravate them enough.
*What about the fledgling republic we’re trying to build in Iraq? Losing a major trading partner certainly wouldn’t help our efforts there. It’s a stretch to think that this would happen, but it’s not entirely out of the realm of possibility.
*Turkey’s got a pretty big and well-trained military. That military’s under a lot of pressure to deal with the Kurds (namely the PKK) that are believed to be operating. With the Turkish public feeling animosity towards the U.S., the military will be under even more pressure to step in and solve things. This doesn’t bode well for our shifty allies in Iraq, nor for our interests in the region.
*The Turkish Republic has been a traditional ally of the state of Israel. While I’m not a rabid fan of Israel like many FReeepers, it’s nice to see them have someone supportive of them nearby.
*Turkey has been a fairly reliable buyer of U.S. defense products. Recently they’ve been shifting more to European companies (trying to ingratiate themselves with the EU), and even South Korea. Furthermore, they have also been considering certain Russian arms. We don’t want to run the chance of losing our valuable military ties with Turkey just because of some wording.
Well, that’s all for now. I’ve got a headache and need to rest.
It makes a whole lot more sense to leave this in the past where it belongs and do what’s in America’s best interest at the present time. If the issue comes up later where we find ourselves in a more favorable position then we might be right do something, but not now.
How about the Democrat leadership?
“Well gee golly.......the ol’ Democrat Party-controlled Congress once again shows that they simply have WAAAAAAAY too much time on their hands.”
I have a feeling that you’d have a much different opinion if it was your own ancestors who were killed in a genocide that was never acknowledged to be a genocide.
This resolution has come up year after year for decades and killed every time due to fear of “offending Turkey.”
I don’t see how this will give the Democrat leadership any money or power.
Besides, who cares about what the motives might be of some Democrats. It’s a bipartisan resolution (has many Republican cosponsors) that’s been brought up every year for many years — it’s long overdue.
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