Posted on 10/11/2007 3:46:18 PM PDT by SJackson
“If the issue comes up later where we find ourselves in a more favorable position then we might be right do something, but not now.”
They’ve been saying that for decades — “must not offend Turkey right now.”
I wonder if you’d say that if Germany had denied the Holocaust.
Well I’m not saying the Turks’ atrocities shouldn’t be ignored, but why wasn’t this addressed 90 years ago when it actually happened?
Since it was brought up before the war on terror, then it should definitely have been passed then. It’s a shame we weren’t able to condemn their genocide decades ago and now must balance that with possibly losing some support in wartime.
has you considered why they are passing this bill right now?? it seems absurd, why do something to deliberately annony an ally in the WOT?? - that’s precisely the reason!!! they couldn’t pass a surrender bill, now they’re passing a bill to get rid of an american ally.
Under the Ottoman empire, not the current administration.
They are one and the same. Ottoman Turks are Turks...same race-—same genocide denial.
We need their help at present with our conflict
NO we do not. They need our help—without the billions of foreign aid they get yearly the paratate of turkey would have ceased to exist long ago. Let it be so soon.
Turks are islamofascists of the worst kind...they hide behind a phony secular constitution -the kind that Lenin/STALIN hid behind. IN the case of the Soviets - commies had the power..in the case of the turks—muslims have the power.
Kurds have proven to be steadfast in their friendship with the west even though we backstabbed and abandoned them many times. They are not choir boys but are far better than the Muslim fiends that range far and wide across the mid east and Asia minor.
The so called Israeli Turk alliance is more a myth than reality and smart Israelis know it..the relationship has soured.
It’s time to do the right thing and recognize the holocaust for what it was. It’s time for a new policy based on moral imperatives not political expediency and step none is to finally reward our steadfast friends in the region, not backstabbing brutes like Turks.
Time to drive a stake through the vampire heart realpolitik.
We cannot forget about 90 years ago but what about today?
What about the the rights of Azeris uprooted from the Armenia-occupied territory of Azerbaijan? What is Armenia doing to help today's victims? By the U.N. definition of genocide would those ethnic Azerbaijan people being uprooted and booted out be victims of "genocide?" Much smaller scale than the W.W.I horrific events. I am sure the Azeris see the difference and feel real good about it. Not!
In total in the South Caucasus I believe that there are some 800,000 displaced persons. Plenty of work to do about today as well as sorting out events of almost one hundred years ago. IMO.
This my friends is DEMOCRAT CREATED TROOP GENOCIDE
if they cant win in the war of ideas they kill the peacemakers and defenders of ideas
Voting Democrat = Kills Everyone Yearning Freedom !
[snip] Egemen Bagis, foreign policy adviser to Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan. “I can assure you Turkey knows how to play hardball.” [unsnip]
Turkey warns of terror wave if EU membership is rejected
EU Observer | Dec 13 2004 | Lisbeth Kirk
Posted on 12/15/2004 1:10:42 AM EST by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1301677/posts
The issue of the Armenian genocide should have been addressed by Congress in the 1920's, not 2007.
To what end? Seriously.......this accomplishes exactly.....what?
All eight living former secretaries of state recently cautioned Congress on this matter. And I quote, “It is our view,” write former Secretaries Albright, Baker, Christopher, Eagleburger, Haig, Kissinger, Powell and Shultz, “that passage of this resolution … could endanger our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and damage efforts to promote reconciliation between Armenia and Turkey.”
Three former secretaries of defense – Carlucci, Cohen and Perry – this week advised Congress that passage of this resolution, and I quote again, “would have a direct, detrimental effect on the operational capabilities, safety and well being of our armed forces in Iraq and in Afghanistan.”
Members of this committee have a sobering choice to make. We have to weigh the desire to express our solidarity with the Armenian people and to condemn this historic nightmare through the use of the word “genocide” against the risk that it could cause young men and women in the uniform of the United States armed services to pay an even heavier price than they are currently paying. This is a vote of conscience, and the Committee will work its will.
Apparently "conscience" for some dictates a word, "genocide," be considered more important than the safety of our troops. These nonbinding resolutions Congress is churning out do little good but potentially much mischief.
You obviously don’t understand Turkey. You may think what you want about the “Turkish Government”, but the Turkish government and the Turkish military are pretty much independent of each other. And it is the military that works closely with the US military. But you can’t humiliate Turkey and expect to get any support. So why piss ‘em off for something that happened 100 years ago?
“but the Turkish government and the Turkish military are pretty much independent of each other”
If that’s so, then why be concerned?
“But you can’t humiliate Turkey and expect to get any support.”
Turkey should be humiliated for denying their government had systematically 1.5 million Armenians, some of whom were my ancestors, just because they were “infidels.”
Turkey has always gotten a pass. Again, do you think for one moment that Germany would have gotten the same pass if they denied the Holocaust and covered up evidence of it?
It’s time to stop coddling Turkey. Besides, as I said, they need our support much more than we need theirs.
“To what end? Seriously.......this accomplishes exactly.....what?”
Finally formally acknowledging the genocide and calling the Turkish government on it for their consistent denial and coverup of evidence all these many years.
I’ve said this before, but I’ll repeat it: If the German government had denied and covered up evidence of the Holocaust, do you really think our government would say, “Oh, just let it go. It’s in the past and we must not offend Germany”?
There’s a double standard, and I would think, of all people, conservatives would see that.
Sorry, but Turkey needs our support so much more than we need theirs. How long do you think that secular government could stay in power and not be overrun by jihadists if we pulled our support?
Every year for decades, there’s always been an ever-changing “good reason” given by the government to kill that resolution. This is just the latest in a long list.
bttt
Pelosi-Murtha plan in action. Starve the military by limiting supply routes.
Thanks perfect photo of the _________.
Pelosi is leading us down the gun barrel, with her cronies in tow.
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