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Long-lost, Dangerous Asteroid Is Found Again
Science Daily ^ | 10-15-2007 | SETI Institute

Posted on 10/15/2007 2:32:17 PM PDT by blam

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To: blam

They crossed vast reaches of space in a journey lasting thousands of years before reaching their target where they attacked the first planet they encountered, Earth. Due to a terrible miscalculation of scale the entire battle fleet was swallowed by a small dog.


41 posted on 10/15/2007 6:06:17 PM PDT by festus (No matter how guilty you are a jury will probably get you off.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

It Maksutov to top these comments...


42 posted on 10/15/2007 7:28:09 PM PDT by mikrofon (Astro BUMP)
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To: SatinDoll; blam

Here’s an interesting paper on NEA mining. (I apologize if it’s old news to you).

http://www.esm.vt.edu/~sdross/papers/ross-asteroid-mining-2001.pdf


43 posted on 10/15/2007 7:31:13 PM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: blam

you could give a large chunk of the artic to the first country

that blasts it out of orbit as it approaches gore-earth.


44 posted on 10/15/2007 7:37:36 PM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: Nervous Tick

Point taken, NEA impacts kids and the other the Earth. Both potential disasters.


45 posted on 10/15/2007 8:41:19 PM PDT by 12th_Monkey
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To: Nervous Tick

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

This is exactly what I’m talking about; it solves more than just one problem, and much of the work in space can be done by robots using solar or nuclear power for energy. Since humans wouldn’t need to be there, life support systems wouldn’t be necessary. From mining to smelting, all work would be done remotely by robots.

We’re talking about rocks here, folks; where time, and the need of a speedy of return isn’t of necessity. So it is possible to utilyze gravity wells of larger planetary bodies for energy, computing sling-shot orbits for sending ore trains towards Earth or moon orbit. Processing metals in space means stronger metals - zero gravity and in a vacuum - and who need cares about environmental hazards!


46 posted on 10/15/2007 8:41:46 PM PDT by SatinDoll
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To: Gum Shoe
“Yes, but Bolsheviks can’t use NEA to pass environmental regulation and treaties for controlling private property and industry.”

I think under the same conditions, it would play just like global warming. The media has the sheeple in this country conditioned that everything is doom and gloom.

47 posted on 10/15/2007 8:53:36 PM PDT by 12th_Monkey
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To: blam; 75thOVI; AFPhys; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aristotleman; Avoiding_Sulla; BenLurkin; ...
"The object was long recognized to be dangerous, but we didn't know where it was," says Jenniskens. "Now it is no longer just out there."
Alright! I've been hopin' something exciting would happen! Thanks Blam for the prodigal stone topic!
 
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48 posted on 10/15/2007 9:06:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Friday, October 5, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: RightWhale

Radioastronomy is important in both.


49 posted on 10/15/2007 9:20:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Friday, October 5, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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apropos of nothing...
"This is a now-dormant comet nucleus, a fragment of a bigger object that, after breaking up in the not-so-distant past, may have caused the gamma Piscid shower of slow meteors (IAU #236) that is active in mid-October and early November," he says. 2007 RR9 moves in a 4.70-year orbit, nearly all the way out to the distance of Jupiter. Because of this elongated orbit, it has a Tisserand parameter of T = 2.94, which defines it dynamically as a Jupiter Family Comet (T = 2.0 - 3.0), not an asteroid (T > 3.0).

50 posted on 10/15/2007 9:23:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Friday, October 5, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Who knows, some kind of information about this object may someday appear here:

http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/news/


51 posted on 10/15/2007 10:59:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Friday, October 5, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/risk/removed.html

“As the set of available observations for a given object grows we are often able to rule out previous potential impacts as no longer consistent with the observations. The following table gives a listing of such objects for which all previously detected potential impacts have been eliminated. Last Updated Oct 15, 2007”

2007 RR9 [removed] 2007-09-13 12:51


52 posted on 10/15/2007 11:09:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Friday, October 5, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Then I guess you’ll haveta walk the Planck...............


53 posted on 10/16/2007 6:24:09 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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To: Red Badger
Let's stay focused, people...
54 posted on 10/16/2007 6:37:16 AM PDT by Jonah Hex ("How'd you get that scar, mister?" "Nicked myself shaving.")
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To: NormsRevenge
How the heck do you know what came from where in the first place?

They run the orbits backwards. Gravitationally forced dynamics works as well with time running backwards as forwards. Then when two, or usually more, objects "come together" in reversed time, they rule that a either a collision or at least a strong gravitational interaction, which change orbits. They have to take into account the gravity of the Sun and the planets. Although they could ignore most all but Jupiter most of the time, unless the object gets "close" to some other object. Where "close" depends on the size of the other object.

Some of the people who do this work for a different division of my employer. See 'em on National Geographic, History Channel, etc, all the time.

55 posted on 10/21/2007 8:38:22 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: blam

Finally, a reason not to give a crap, kill me now


NOOOO! I JUST TURNED 21, DAMN!


HUH? I just planted my medicinal marijuana crop


I shoulda ended up at Kappa Alpha Theta

56 posted on 10/21/2007 9:01:00 PM PDT by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: El Gato
They run the orbits backwards. Gravitationally forced dynamics works as well with time running backwards as forwards.

Thanks for that explanation. The universe is a pretty cool place, isn't it? I wish I understood more about it.

57 posted on 10/21/2007 9:09:57 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: El Gato

How the heck do you know what came from where in the first place?

They run the orbits backwards. Gravitationally forced dynamics works as well with time running backwards as forwards. Then when two, or usually more, objects “come together” in reversed time, they rule that a either a collision or at least a strong gravitational interaction, which change orbits.

Thanks for the answer.. but how do they know that they are looking at the same two objects over time? They do allude to that happening when more than two may be involved, pretty good science any way ya cut it.. ;-)


58 posted on 10/22/2007 11:37:14 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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Big bright puffball Holmes is a comet like no other
SFGate | November 9, 2007 | David Perlman
Posted on 11/10/2007 8:13:24 AM EST by Daffynition
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1923756/posts


59 posted on 11/12/2007 8:09:57 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Thursday, November 8, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: blam

Did anyone else watch the “End of the World” scenarios on the History channel yesterday?

I liked the frozen CO2 comet that caused massive global warming so severe that it killed the giant Koala bears that could eat a fully grown tree in the space of an hour and all his fellow denizens also falling victim as their overgrown bodies failed to adapt to the sudden loss of forage.

How long does it take Eucalyptus to reach maturity, anybody know?

The impact sent up such a cloud of CO2 gas, dirt, debris and smoke that the temperature increased over 10F in less than a decade as the dense greenhouse air wouldn’t allow a bit of heat to escape to space.

That’s what they said.


60 posted on 11/12/2007 8:19:57 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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