Did early Southwestern Indians ferment corn and make beer?

www.physorg.com ^ | 12/04/07 | Sandia National Laboratory

[Red Badger]

No matter how primitive a society, all humans have made some sort of fermented concoction throughout the ages, and still do.......

[Red Badger]

Ping!........glug, glug, glug..........hic!....

[TommyDale]

Not beer, corn liquor. Know affectionately to the Native Americans as “firewater”.

[NonValueAdded]

to analyze vapors produced by mild heating of pot samples

Been there ...

[Palladin]

Kickapoo Joy Juice! —Li’l Abner

[Red Badger]

LOL!!......what?.......

[4yearlurker]

I know this is the wrong part of the country,but John Heckwelder wrote that “Manhattan” translates to “Place were I first got drunk.”

[1Old Pro]

Firewater good.

[Red Badger]

[Nathan Zachary]

"Did early Southwestern Indians ferment corn and make beer?"

If they did, I'd like to see that recipe. It's really hard to make beer from corn. You can make whiskey from corn, but beer is made from mainly barley.

[I see my hands]

Whiskey, corn whiskey, whiskey I cry. If a Cree don't fall on me then I'll live with 'til I die.

[VR-21]

The Apache fermented corn and made a liquor called Tizwin according to "The Apaches - Eagles Of The Southwest" by Donald E. Worcester.

According to the records of the Army and Indian Agents in Arizona in the late 1800's they were pretty unmanageable when they were on it.

[Deaf Smith]

The SW Indians had pyote the got out far W Texas. That was enough to put them on their a**.

[fweingart]

No more firewater for you, Tonto!

All corn must be ground up and made into ethanol so we can continue not only to pay high prices for motion lotion, but for corn and taters too!

[Santa Fe_Conservative]

Honestly I have always wanted to make just start leaving fruits and veggies out for long periods of time to start the fermentation process and make my own home brew. It’s be a smelly operation though.

[Red Badger]

“Manhattan” translates to “Place were I first got drunk.”

Should translate into "Place where white man first got swindled." The Indians who sold Manhattan Island to the Dutch were from Long Island. The Dutch didn't know that and proceeded to make a deal for the famous $24 in trinkets for the land. The Indians took the loot and left. When the Dutch started to settle in the real Indian owners of the island showed up from the mainland and demanded payment............The first NYC land swindle waaaay before the Brooklyn Bridge.......

[Red Badger]

Closer to home, the Tarahumara Indians in northern Mexico to this day drink a weak beer called tiswin, made by fermenting corn kernels.

It's mentioned.......

[fish hawk]

Before Donald Trump?

[4yearlurker]

One funny story from Heckwelder;s book is the Dutch gave the Indians hoes and rakes as gifts for cultivating. Metal tools with out the wooden handles. When the Dutch returned months later the Indians were wearing them around their necks. They didn’t know what they were for.

[Red Badger]

His ancestors apparently.......