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Underwater City Could Be Revealed (UK)
BBC ^ | 1-18-2008

Posted on 01/18/2008 11:00:03 AM PST by blam

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To: rdl6989
It’s true we should have saved Dunwich but there was too much CO2 in the air by 1500 years ago

That is the first thing I thought of when I read the headline...

And, like you, I hope Dunwich is well preserved and hope it contributes to our knowledge of what life was like back then.
21 posted on 01/18/2008 11:52:33 AM PST by goldfinch
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To: blam

http://www.soton.ac.uk/mediacentre/news/2008/jan/08_06.shtml

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Dunwich, fourteen miles south of Lowestoft, was once a thriving port, and in the 14th century similar in size to London. However, storms, erosion and floods over the past six centuries have almost wiped out this once prosperous city, and the Dunwich of today is a quiet coastal village.

The project will use the latest underwater acoustic imaging technology to assess the existence of any remains from the city that lies between 10ft (3m) and 50ft (15m) down.

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Diving evidence suggests the site contains debris from at least two churches and a priory, but underwater visibility at the location is very poor, and no one has any idea what remains (if any) exist from the medieval settlement that was lost in the 13th and 14th centuries.

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The city-scale survey of the sea floor will provide information on the location and state of any structures of archaeological interest in relation to historical records. The findings will be presented as a new public display for the Dunwich Museum, documenting the technology used and what the project has revealed of the lost city.


22 posted on 01/18/2008 12:04:38 PM PST by A. Morgan (CNN- the pantload Network. Tune in and you'll GET a pantload!)
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To: A. Morgan

52º 16’ 42.40” N 1º 38’ 1.01” E


23 posted on 01/18/2008 12:22:19 PM PST by A. Morgan (CNN- the pantload Network. Tune in and you'll GET a pantload!)
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To: blam
Dunwich has a storied history in the British House of Commons. It was a truly gerrymandered seat for several hundred years after the city could no longer be called more than a village. I haven't read up on this in a long time, until the rising power of Industrialists forced a House of Lords reform through in 1832 to eliminate the rotten boroughs. Effectively, the House of Lords and other Agriculturist old line powers used it to maintain influence in the House of Commons for a few centuries. Stripped The term "rotten borough": referred to a parliamentary borough or constituency in Great Britain and Ireland which, due to size and population, was "controlled" and used by a patron to exercise undue and unrepresentative influence within parliament. Rotten boroughs existed for centuries, although the term rotten borough only came into usage in the 18th century. Typically rotten boroughs were boroughs which once had been flourishing cities with remarkable population, but which had deteriorated, declined and become deserted during the centuries. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunwich_%28UK_Parliament_constituency%29 (Pops)

From http://infomotions.com/etexts/gutenberg/dirs/1/4/7/4/14742/14742.htm (Pops): 

One of the greatest prizes of the sea is the ancient city of Dunwich, which dates back to the Roman era. The Domesday Survey shows that it was then a considerable town having 236 burgesses. It was girt with strong walls; it possessed an episcopal palace, the seat of the East Anglian bishopric; it had (so Stow asserts) fifty-two churches, a monastery, brazen gates, a town hall, hospitals, and the dignity of possessing a mint. Stow tells of its departed glories, its royal and episcopal palaces, the sumptuous mansion of the mayor, its numerous churches and its windmills, its harbour crowded with shipping, which sent forth forty vessels for the king's service in the thirteenth century. Though Dunwich was an important place, Stow's description of it is rather exaggerated. It could never have had more than ten churches and monasteries. Its "brazen gates" are mythical, though it had its Lepers' Gate, South Gate, and others. It was once a thriving city of wealthy merchants and industrious fishermen. King John granted to it a charter. It suffered from the attacks of armed men as well as from the ravages of the sea. Earl Bigot and the revolting barons besieged it in the reign of Edward I. Its decay was gradual. In 1342, in the parish of St. Nicholas, out of three hundred houses only eighteen remained. Only seven out of a hundred houses were standing in the parish of St. Martin. St. Peter's parish was devastated and depopulated. It had a small round church, like that at Cambridge, called the Temple, once the property of the Knights Templars, richly endowed with costly gifts. This was a place of sanctuary, as were the other churches in the city. With the destruction of the houses came also the decay of the port which no ships could enter. Its rival, Southwold, attracted the vessels of strangers. The markets and fairs were deserted. Silence and ruin reigned over the doomed town, and the ruined church of All Saints is all that remains of its former glories, save what the storms sometimes toss along the beach for the study and edification of antiquaries.

I'm amazed I remembered all this from a Anglosphere history course I took 9 years ago.
24 posted on 01/18/2008 12:26:06 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: agere_contra

Please Note, the English Dunwich is pronounced “Dun’itch” not “Dun-wich”


25 posted on 01/18/2008 12:43:42 PM PST by Wil H
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To: blam

I can see the familiar phrase “Now ya’ve dun’itch!”


26 posted on 01/18/2008 12:54:24 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: wildbill
"It’s a little known fact, but the last Mayor of Dunwich watched as the town subsided under the sea and renamed it “Dunwith”"

I thought he said "Dunwithit."

27 posted on 01/18/2008 12:59:00 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: Verloona Ti

VERY cool site. Thanks you.


28 posted on 01/18/2008 1:37:14 PM PST by Mrs_Stokke (The last time we nominated a Senator, we got a Clinton.)
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To: Mrs_Stokke
I am surprised and pleased to see so many Lovecraft fans on FR. :-)
29 posted on 01/18/2008 1:49:49 PM PST by Verloona Ti (I still wish this had been about lost Lyonesse)
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To: Verloona Ti

How can anyone not love Lovecraft?


30 posted on 01/18/2008 2:13:20 PM PST by Mrs_Stokke (The last time we nominated a Senator, we got a Clinton.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Sandra Dee came to mind when I saw "Dunwich" too.

I saw the movie at a theater.

They even had Sir Graves Ghastly make an appearance before the movie. They carried a coffin in, and he climbed out.

31 posted on 01/18/2008 2:24:55 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Mrs_Stokke

I really, really hoped the new Cloverfield movie would have been about C’thulhu.:-(


32 posted on 01/18/2008 2:36:46 PM PST by Verloona Ti (Or maybe Ys.)
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To: SunkenCiv; blam
DOMESDAY ENTRY FOR DUNWICH.LINK,

The entry for Dunwich shows that it was one of the largest ports on the east coast, with a thriving fishing industry and around 3,000 residents. The 'gift' or tax it paid that year - 68,000 herrings - was more than that of any other Suffolk port. However, this entry also warns that Dunwich lost half of its farmland to erosion along the coast between 1066 and 1086.

33 posted on 01/18/2008 2:57:11 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: epluribus_2
O R'LYEH?

Go check out lolcthulhu...

34 posted on 01/18/2008 3:10:40 PM PST by Malacoda (A day without a pi$$ed-off muslim is like a day without sunshine.)
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To: JerseyHighlander
Earl Bigot and the revolting barons besieged it...

Well, now I know what to name my band. Fascinating history, though.

35 posted on 01/18/2008 3:22:46 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: blam

Mr. Dunwich, click the image below to meet your twin, Gilgal Rephaim


36 posted on 01/18/2008 3:28:46 PM PST by fso301
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To: Fred Nerks

William the Conqueror brought over SUVs.


37 posted on 01/18/2008 10:43:49 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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To: wildbill

I think his last name was Waters. But anyway, he waved goodbye.


38 posted on 01/18/2008 11:00:36 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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To: Fred Nerks

There was an old local story about one of the towns that vanished this way (perhaps it was Dunwich) that on quiet nights one could hear the church bells tolling under the sea. :’) Nice spooky story, not true of course. ;’)


39 posted on 01/18/2008 11:02:23 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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To: blam

I’d read about this place when I was debating on where to go in East Anglia years ago. Apparently a couple of parts of the old town were still visible at low tide, or very lightly submerged?


40 posted on 01/18/2008 11:12:05 PM PST by WoofDog123
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