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"Global Warming Is Real" - Dispatches from the International Conference on Climate Change
Reason ^ | March 3, 2008 | Ronald Bailey

Posted on 03/04/2008 10:55:54 PM PST by neverdem

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1 posted on 03/04/2008 10:55:57 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

measuring a mean global temperature is next to impossible even with today’s technology, let alone relying on data recorded decades or centuries ago, or extrapolating data via ice core and soil samples.


2 posted on 03/04/2008 11:02:39 PM PST by LukeL
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PING!


3 posted on 03/04/2008 11:08:29 PM PST by CedarDave (John, When will you treat conservatives the way you do fellow senators John, Hillary and Barack?)
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To: neverdem
Heartland Institute senior policy analyst, James Taylor, told the participants that the organizers had invited many of the prominent "alarmists" to present their views at the conference. "Not a single one would come to speak," Taylor said.

This is the most telling quote... and the most damning. The alarmists do not show up to these debates because they have nothing with which to debate.

4 posted on 03/04/2008 11:13:03 PM PST by RTO (Salve Regina, ora pro nobis!)
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To: neverdem

My microwave is also an icemaker.


5 posted on 03/04/2008 11:14:24 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (Help control the RINO population. Have them spayed or neutered. ©)
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To: neverdem

Now where have I seen this story before...?


6 posted on 03/04/2008 11:22:09 PM PST by chemicalman (Lookin' for sac-a-lait.)
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To: neverdem
In particular, cooler waters in the Pacific ("La Nina") and lower solar activity have conspired to drop average global temperatures.

How exactly do inanimate objects conspire?

7 posted on 03/04/2008 11:28:08 PM PST by thecabal
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To: neverdem

ping


8 posted on 03/04/2008 11:30:20 PM PST by preacher (A government which robs from Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul.)
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To: neverdem
Michaels pointed out that the surface records show average global temperatures increasing at a steady rate of +0.17 degrees centigrade per decade since 1977. He also hastened to put the kibosh on recent assertions that "global warming stopped in 1998." While global average temperatures have been essentially flat since 1998, Michaels argued that natural variations in the climate mask any increases due to greenhouse gases. In particular,cooler waters in the Pacific ("La Nina") and lower solar activity have conspired to drop average global temperatures. When these trends reverse, average global temperatures will rapidly rise to reveal the established long term man-made warming trend of +0.17 degrees centigrade per decade. Michaels warned against succumbing to the temptation to cite current flattened global temperatures as evidence against man-made global warming.

If the "steady rate" of temperature increase can be masked by "natural variations in the climate" then aren't they saying that the anthropogenic contribution to climate change doesn't really amount to much. That it is just noise in the larger system of climate changes that we don't understand very well and is pretty much out of our control. He is saying that the climate conspired against their theory and that when trends reverse manmade global warming will be back. When will the trends reverse? Next week? Next year? In 100 thousand years on the other side of a glacial period? And even if it does reverse, when will nature next conspire to mask manmade global warming? This is a stunning admission of the vacancy of the manmade global warming theory.

9 posted on 03/04/2008 11:48:25 PM PST by Dan Cooper
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To: neverdem

Michaels is clueless.


10 posted on 03/04/2008 11:55:40 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: neverdem
Climate change is real? It's like a liar trying to convince you that
the lie is true. I swear it's true. Honest. Trust me..
11 posted on 03/05/2008 12:11:49 AM PST by MaxMax (I need a life after politics)
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To: thecabal

LOL. Great point. Especially objects that are 93 million miles apart! Email, perhaps?


12 posted on 03/05/2008 12:45:51 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: neverdem
Why do these morons think most of north America isn’t still covered with ice?

“Global warming” has been going on for thousands of years.

Just plain stupid...

13 posted on 03/05/2008 1:59:46 AM PST by DB
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To: thecabal

Ain’t it funny how the sun’s activity is part of a conspiracy to lower temperatures but is a non-factor in higher temperatures?


14 posted on 03/05/2008 2:26:17 AM PST by Sapper26 (Quondo Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: LukeL

I’m still waiting for the report that proves that global warming is a bad thing for North Americans (even if it’s worse than .17 degrees per decade). People who have a choice have never willingly moved to colder climates, and we can’t even imagine the economic benefits of a Northwest passage.


15 posted on 03/05/2008 2:29:30 AM PST by ravinson
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To: thecabal

How exactly do inanimate objects conspire?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Anyone who believes this conspiracy theory REALLY IS a nutcase.


16 posted on 03/05/2008 3:09:26 AM PST by RipSawyer (Does anyone still believe this is a free country?)
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To: neverdem; Genesis defender; proud_yank; FrPR; CygnusXI; enough_idiocy; rdl6989; ...
 


Global Warming Scam News & Views

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17 posted on 03/05/2008 3:24:12 AM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: neverdem
"Fibromyalgia is a real condition", with apologies to any sufferers of fibromyalgia.
18 posted on 03/05/2008 3:53:29 AM PST by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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To: neverdem

It has been in the 70s the past few days, oh wait this is Florida never mind.


19 posted on 03/05/2008 4:00:55 AM PST by bikerman (_ _ . /_ _ _ /_ . . / / . . . . / . / . _ . . / . _ _ . / / . . _ / . . . //)
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To: neverdem

It has been in the 70s the past few days, oh wait this is Florida never mind.


20 posted on 03/05/2008 4:04:38 AM PST by bikerman (_ _ . /_ _ _ /_ . . / / . . . . / . / . _ . . / . _ _ . / / . . _ / . . . //)
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