Posted on 03/05/2008 4:08:54 PM PST by Bokababe
No because history says so, awaiting claims from you that Serbian Orthodox monasteries are really converted Albanian Roman Catholic Churches.
Now I know you that know sh*t. Congratulations.
How old are you Dio?
Did you ever live in the US?
If you are under 50 years old and the answer to the second question is “No”, then you don’t know what you are talking about.
Albanians are universally hated. Their normal MO is to ensconce themselves in some little corner of the other guy's country, do their super-breeding thing (avg 12 kids per family) for 20 or 25 years, and then try to break the little corner of the other country off into their "Greater Albania"
They were basically pissed at Milosevic because the guy was systematically outlawing every aspect of their culture, drug dealing, poisoning wells, murder, arson, traffic in women and underage girls, traffic in stolen vehicles etc. etc. etc.
Follow the money.
Considering that all it takes is a quick glance at ellisrecords.org, the matter is settled.
Actually, the Magyars had issues with the Serbs, as did the Germans, and the Macedonians, and the Bulgars.
As for siding with the Germans in WW2, that should tell you what life was like under the Serbs for these people to have sided with the Germans against them.
Take a good look, Dio. The Ellis Island Records only go until 1924 and the vast majority of people came through there much earlier.
In 1924, Yugoslavia was only a few years old. Previous to 1918, virtually immigrants who came from today's Croatia, Bosnia and even the Bay of Kotor, were listed as having come from "Austria", "Hungary" or anything that the US official could make out of what the immigrant (who didn't speak English) was saying, because they were all citizens of the Austro-Hungarian Empire back then.
If you actually "did a quick search" as you suggested, you'd know that you can't just search by country, you have to search by an individual name.
And yes, my Croat cousin who grew up in Zadar, told me that most Dalmatians, even those over there, didn't solidify their identities as "Croatians" until the bombing of Dubrovnik in the 1990's -- then they all became "Croats" all the way.
But, we really need to post more things about Croatia, so that the discussion will be topical to the post. Instead, we have a post about Serbia and Kosovo, and here you off on the Croatian history tangent again.
I'm really glad you cleared that up, then go back to goose stepping.
Funnnily enough, the numbers for those declaring themselves "Dalmatians" is less than 0.5%.
If you actually "did a quick search" as you suggested, you'd know that you can't just search by country, you have to search by an individual name.
Exactly, and it shows them to list themselves as Croatian, unless they were listed as Austrian.
The Macedonians had issues with Serbia and the Serbs?? Wow, that’s news to me! What were those issues Diocletian, I would really appreciate some more information on this “issue”.
This chauvinism resulted in the assassination of the Serbian king by a Macedonian revolutionary.
What century was that Diocletian? Some Serbs may have considered Macedonia a part of Serbia (just as Greece considers Macedonia a part of Greece and Bulgaria consider it a part Bulgaria) but my in-laws are Macedonian and they have never had any trouble from Serbs for speaking the Macedonian language. Outlawed? The only place where there has been “problems” for using the Macedonian language is in Greece. I’m sorry but I think you should stick to your info about Croatia and leave Macedonia out of this issue. As for Macedonians today, they have absolutely no problem with Serbs. Their concerns are the Albanians!
The first half of the 20th century. I’m sorry if you were ignorant of this fact.
“The first half of the 20th century. I’m sorry if you were ignorant of this fact.”
Gee, than I should be happy that my in laws are still alive and weren’t persecuted for speaking Macedonian during the first half of the 20th century! Or maybe they were just “ignorant” of the “law against speaking Macedonian” when they were young and should be grateful no one caught them speaking their language. /s
But as Bokababe said in post 90, the issue is Kosovo here and not Macedonia, so maybe we should stick to the issue of the thread!
It wasn’t for speaking the language, but rather for publishing in that language.
They're called municipalities (opshtinas). Bosnia has cantons. You might've meant Bosnia, not Kosovo.
A “Kosovar” is a resident of Kosovo. Most of them are ethnic Albanians, yes. But it's a useful concept if you reject the concept that every ethnic Albanian must be in Albania.
Nope. Again, they can be Albanian-Serbians (just like, say, Irish-Americans, Dutch-Americans...) or, simply, Albanians ("Shiptar",borrowed from the Albanian "Shqipetar", is the name used to refer to those Albanians living in Serbia, so as to differentiate them from those living in Albania).
"Kosovars" thus don't exist as a people or a nation. (Much like "Bosnians" -- you're either Croat, Serb or a mix of the two exhibiting the tendency to use Turcisms in your speech). You can be any of the minorities (well, not any more -- they've all been ethnically cleansed from the Albanian-dominated parts of Kosovo), but that does not make you a "Kosovar." If you meant "Kosovar" as a term describing one's geographic background -- like "Bostonian," "New Yorker," etc -- then you're the rare exception. In the real world, the term is loaded.
I'm sorry you don't like my point of view, but calling me stupid or imply I'm ignorant of the history. I've been watching this area since 1992, sadly.
I apologize if it seemed like it was my intention to insult you. It's not that I don't like your point of view -- it's just plain not based on facts.
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