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NYT: Maybe Greenland Isn't Melting After All
NewsBusters ^ | 7/03/2008 | Noel Sheppard

Posted on 07/05/2008 12:19:05 PM PDT by sionnsar

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To: Old Professer
As long as CO2 levels keep climbing annualy the eventual collapse of our environment as we know it becomes more certain with each milligram emitted.

We now stand at about 300 parts per million, which is a part every 3333.
150 parts per million is a part every 6666. Imagine lining up 6666 pieces of anything and throwing just one of something else in there. Is that really significant? In the case of weather could it really cause warming? Is there even any evidence that CO2 is a significant greenhouse gas? Certainly not as significant as water vapor. Man made global warming is a hoax.

21 posted on 07/05/2008 12:53:38 PM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: sionnsar
new Dutch study of 17 years of satellite measurements of ice movement in western Greenland concludes that the speedup of the ice is a transient summertime phenomenon,

I have to remember that phrase. "I know I should mow the lawn, but it's just a transient summertime phenomenon anyway."

22 posted on 07/05/2008 12:54:11 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: rbg81
Already the term in vogue is “climate change”, not global warming.

"Global climate change" is so much more useful of a theory than either "global warming" or "global cooling" was.

Is it warmer today than usual? It is because of global climate change.

Is it cooler today than usual? It is because of global climate change.

Is it wetter, dryer, windier, less windy, cloudier, less cloudy? It doesn't matter. Whenever there is bad weather anywhere in the world, it is because of global climate change caused by Bush and those damned SUVs.

Women and minorities will be hardest hit.

23 posted on 07/05/2008 12:57:57 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy ("What's up with Whitey?" - Michelle Obama)
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To: sionnsar

You mean I shouldn’t have invested in the Baffin Island Club Med???


24 posted on 07/05/2008 1:02:22 PM PDT by JimSEA (Kaffur and proud of it.)
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To: sionnsar

Yeah like those “threatened” polar bears. I just saw one living perfectly well in sunny San Diego. No special cooling environment just open air. The incredulity around the whole climate change issue is has passed ridiculousness. Does anyone who isn’t a child or woefully uninformed believe the alarmists? I almost forgot we have two of them running for President.


25 posted on 07/05/2008 1:04:32 PM PDT by Maelstorm (They will take our guns, take our money, take our children, and take our right to disagree.)
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To: JimSEA

LOL! It’s not too late to sell off — maybe James Hansen will buy in.


26 posted on 07/05/2008 1:05:02 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: sionnsar

Do the climate alarmist know that the phenomenon of ice melt has left the nation of Iceland almost devoid of ice except for a couple of glaciers? It would be a big help if the NY Times and all the other liberal rags stop killing trees and shut down their printing presses.


27 posted on 07/05/2008 1:08:21 PM PDT by Keflavik76
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To: sionnsar

Too many “scientists” are hooked on government grants for their paychecks. The faux climate change hysteria would melt faster than Greenland’s summer ice if government welfare to scientists would dry up.


28 posted on 07/05/2008 1:44:33 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: aflaak

ping


29 posted on 07/05/2008 2:43:11 PM PDT by r-q-tek86 (If you're not taking flak, you're not over the target.)
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To: sionnsar

The P-38 aircraft “Glacier Girl” was recovered from beneath 268 feet of ice that had accumulated over it in the time between its 1942 landing on the surface and 1992, when it was recovered.

The fact that this much ice had accumulated in almost 50 years, and that much ice must melt before we return to the level that existed in 1942 is entirely missed by the climate alarmists. Why? It simply proves them to be the fools they really are.

see:
http://p38assn.org/glacier-girl-recovery.htm


30 posted on 07/05/2008 3:14:39 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Partisan Gunslinger

Poor Old Perfesser, wandered into a conservative site and thought he could sell global warming.

Your data is good. I also like to point out that global warming has been detected on Mars and Pluto

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mars_ice-age_031208.html

http://seoblackhat.com/2007/03/04/global-warming-on-mars-pluto-triton-and-jupiter/

— which to an illeducated guy like me means that there are variations in Solar energy.

Sun’s Output Increasing in Possible Trend Fueling Global Warming

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/sun_output_030320.html


31 posted on 07/05/2008 4:15:07 PM PDT by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: sionnsar

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32 posted on 07/05/2008 5:22:10 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy. Fight back or STFU!!!)
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33 posted on 07/05/2008 8:43:51 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drill Here! Drill Now! Pay Less! Sign the petition at http://www.americansolutions.com/)
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To: sgtyork; Old_Professor

>”Poor Old Perfesser, wandered into a conservative site and thought he could sell global warming.”<

-I’m pretty sure Old Professor was just being sardonic. I’ve seen his posts on GW threads before; he’s not a believer.


34 posted on 07/06/2008 8:04:56 AM PDT by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger then yours)
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To: Panzerlied

It’s amazing that the Earth gets colder and warmer, too.

Kidding aside: This actually could be an important article - and I hope it continues to be borne out.


35 posted on 07/06/2008 8:16:10 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: sionnsar
On Friday, the journal Science is publishing a seventeen year study of Greenland's ice sheet that flatly contradicts all such hysterical reports and claims.

The New York Times pushed a pet liberal adgenda over the truth?

OMG

How can it be?

How can that be?

/sarcasm off

36 posted on 07/06/2008 8:24:16 AM PDT by GOPJ (Hypocrisy doesnÂ’t apply to liberals according to the MSM - FreeperProud2BeRight)
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To: FBD

Don’t bring Old Professor into this please, I can’t speak for him; it is I to whom he referred and indeed I was merely mocking the popular mantra.


37 posted on 07/06/2008 8:25:38 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: sionnsar

“Global warming” hoax BUMP!


38 posted on 07/06/2008 8:25:47 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: FBD

Cooooollll...... ;-)


39 posted on 07/06/2008 1:30:04 PM PDT by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Soliton; ETL; cogitator; SunkenCiv; Delacon; Robert A. Cook, PE; ...
Seasonal Factor Seen in Melting and Ice Shifts in Greenland Link to Revkin's article

Large and Rapid Melt-Induced Velocity Changes in the Ablation Zone of the Greenland Ice Sheet link to abstract

Americans' unhappy birthday: 'Too much wrong'

Revkin & the Times are quick to link abstracts & articles when they like the subject. They didn't bother. I tried searching Science using Greenland as the term to search, but no luck. I had to read Revkin's article to find the author's name of the original article, and then do an author search. Is it just a coincidence that this article is buried in the July 4th weekend with the woe is us article from associated pap?

40 posted on 07/06/2008 1:35:15 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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