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Sun's Not Screwy, Scientist Says
SPACE.com ^ | Jul 11, 2008 | Unknown

Posted on 07/11/2008 11:13:33 AM PDT by decimon

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To: decimon

The only thing “out of whack” is Hathaway’s predictions!!!

19th August 2006

Backward Sunspot Could Fortell Enormous Solar Cycle

“We’ve been waiting for this,” says David Hathaway, a solar physicist at the Marshall Space Flight in Huntsville, Alabama. “A backward sunspot is a sign that the next solar cycle is beginning.”
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Backward-Sunspot-Could-Fortell-Enormous-Solar-Cycle-33025.shtml

August 19, 2006?????
ENORMOUS???!!!! :p


21 posted on 07/11/2008 11:55:53 AM PDT by Bulwinkle
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To: pgyanke

No no no... that’s a Nick Knack Pat’a’whack.

That’s a little different from a plain old “out of whack” instance.


22 posted on 07/11/2008 12:01:03 PM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for latest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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To: decimon
That's FONT, not front.

Off topic (or not): One of the funniest things I've seen was a couple camped across a small lake from where my troop camped in the Sierras back when I was a Boy Scout. Those two were enjoying the lake au naturale for most of the first day after they arrived. Of course, as a bunch of adolescent boys, we were snickering about their bare butts going in and out of the water. Then, about 4 hours later, we noticed that their butts were much, much redder than they had been earlier. We didn't see much of them the next day as we noted that the UV is much more intense at higher elevations.

23 posted on 07/11/2008 12:01:54 PM PDT by Redcloak ("Yes, I have been drinking. Why do you ask?" #1 on the list of "Things heard from McCain voters")
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To: Rick.Donaldson

Well then... this old man’s going rolling home!


24 posted on 07/11/2008 12:06:00 PM PDT by pgyanke ("Huntered"--The act of being ignored by media and party to prevent name recognition)
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To: Redcloak
That's FONT, not front.

Well, I didn't want to mention your typeface.

25 posted on 07/11/2008 12:07:05 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon


"Nothing is out of whack with the Sun!"
-- Hansen Gang Information Minister

26 posted on 07/11/2008 12:27:29 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Global Warming Heretic -- http://agw-heretic.blogspot.com)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Me too. Are they saying the sun is whack now? Are they switching to ebonics these days?


27 posted on 07/11/2008 12:27:38 PM PDT by xp38
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To: Redcloak

http://www.spaceweather.com/swpod2008/09jul08/vantuyne1.jpg?PHPSESSID=a42tb85daacl4qcq7cggm2etb7
from spaceweather has a red-blue 3-D Mars image, anaglyph, showing where a rock has moved through the dust and left a channel. I finally got a pair of the 3-D glasses because spaceweather is posting these 3-D images frequently.


28 posted on 07/11/2008 12:37:03 PM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: JMJJR

Bob Dylan said

“The sun’s not yellow, it’s chicken”


29 posted on 07/11/2008 12:48:38 PM PDT by JMJJR (Now you KNOW why we're called the stupid party !)
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To: pgyanke; Rick.Donaldson
Give a dog a bone?

How would we give the sun a bone?

Throw Mecca at it?

30 posted on 07/11/2008 12:58:19 PM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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To: fanfan

That’s a turd!


31 posted on 07/11/2008 12:59:54 PM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for latest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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To: Bulwinkle; SunkenCiv

Does the Sun do a magnetic pole reversal before a new Solar Cycle begins?

Maybe that is what is effecting Earth’s magnetic field right now.


32 posted on 07/11/2008 1:02:12 PM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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To: Rick.Donaldson

Oh.

Not a good idea to tick off the sun, eh?

How about Mercury.
We are not using it right now.


33 posted on 07/11/2008 1:04:46 PM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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To: fanfan

Yes the sun does that


34 posted on 07/11/2008 1:06:09 PM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for latest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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To: Rick.Donaldson
If, for the sake of argument, it were “out of whack” how would one put in back “in whack” anyway?

Obiviously, the same way that we're "fixing" Global WarmingTM: Give other countries the authority to tax US Citizens via the UN, then give the money to China, add "Solar Minimum" regulations of various flavors to every conceivable industry and blame the whole mess on Bush.

That's how problems are fixed in these parts.

35 posted on 07/11/2008 1:12:19 PM PDT by TChris (Vote John McCain: Democrat Lite -- 3% less liberal than a regular Democrat!)
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To: Bulwinkle

Interesting. Perhaps this was more critical than he thought. From article:

‘New-cycle sunspots almost always pop up at mid-latitudes, around 30N or 30S. The backward sunspot popped up at 13S. “That’s strange.”’

So, unexpected behavior followed by unexpected behavior. I feel less concerned about this minimum, but another important aspect is that the longer and weaker this cycle is, the weaker the next one is expected to be. Most likely the global cooling trend of the last ten years will continue. We’ll have to keep watching the solar behavior to see how things play out in the end.

I also remain concerned that modern sunspot numbers are inflated compared to historical numbers due to better observing instruments.


36 posted on 07/11/2008 1:12:59 PM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: Rick.Donaldson
Earth's Core, Magnetic Field Changing Fast, Study Says

Liberals have one thing going for them I guess.....all their BS forces me to look up facts about things like science, that I am not naturally good at.

Were there more earth quakes, volcanos, etc., at the last Solar Minimum?

37 posted on 07/11/2008 1:13:14 PM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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To: decimon

Hathaway is correct if by “historic” he means the complete solar cycle record since the 17th century. If, however, we look at just the last 4-5 cycles, things are a bit grimmer. Cycle 24 may be as low as cycle 14 back in the early 20th century when the world population was only 1.75 billion. Now that we have an additional 5 billion mouths to feed, a low cycle could lead to global cooling that will drastically affect the harvest of essential grains around the world. Starvation may be the fate of hundreds of millions over the next 20 years since cycle 25 is supposed to be the lowest cycle in centuries based on information we have about the sun’s conveyor belt.


38 posted on 07/11/2008 1:16:46 PM PDT by burster
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To: TChris
"Obiviously"???

Wow, I need more sleep.

39 posted on 07/11/2008 1:16:53 PM PDT by TChris (Vote John McCain: Democrat Lite -- 3% less liberal than a regular Democrat!)
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To: fanfan

“Does the Sun do a magnetic pole reversal before a new Solar Cycle begins?

February 15, 2001 — You can’t tell by looking, but scientists say the Sun has just undergone an important change. Our star’s magnetic field has flipped.

The Sun’s magnetic north pole, which was in the northern hemisphere just a few months ago, now points south. It’s a topsy-turvy situation, but not an unexpected one.

“This always happens around the time of solar maximum,” says David Hathaway, a solar physicist at the Marshall Space Flight Center. “The magnetic poles exchange places at the peak of the sunspot cycle. In fact, it’s a good indication that Solar Max is really here.”
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast15feb_1.htm

The ‘Sunspots’ switch a solar minimum.

I’m just a lameman...just enjoy read about this stuff.


40 posted on 07/11/2008 1:18:41 PM PDT by Bulwinkle
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